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Topic: Paddle or Hot Rod Thickness
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 24, 2018 11:53PM)
My brother does the wood working in our shop and is working on some paddles and hot rods. I've read up on them and have found conflicting information on the thickness
of the rod/paddle. Some say 1/4" is the perfect thickness while others say 3/8" is. I was wondering if we could get any professional input on this.

Thank you,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Nov 26, 2018 05:59PM)
There is no set size as far as I can tell, it may also depend on what size you are making. Jumping Gems had a small and large size. Flash Rod was a large size.

I'll start again, with the stem handle was about a quarter inch, but they also made a jumbo size, but the thickness was about the same, but the paddle shorter.

Take a look:
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 27, 2018 10:34PM)
As always Bill thank you for your input, it's always appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Nov 28, 2018 05:46AM)
For me, when using a hot rod, paddle, or knife, it's been a comfort feel, a balance of the whole item, as opposed to size. The rod I use at this time is 1/4 and has a good balance.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 28, 2018 09:09AM)
Thank you Wravyn. You and Bill are right about rods, 1/4 is comfortable, while a paddle at 3/8 feels good too. My brother made a few of each last night and they handled fine.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Nov 30, 2018 03:32PM)
I've found it's a width/height ratio thing. Knock out a few blanks and see what feels best to you. That's usually agreeable to others.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Dec 1, 2018 06:53AM)
[quote]On Nov 30, 2018, Michael Baker wrote:
I've found it's a width/height ratio thing. Knock out a few blanks and see what feels best to you. That's usually agreeable to others. [/quote]

Michael, thank you for being able to say what I was trying to. I knew what I wanted to say yet I didnít have the words... the width/height ratio is a perfect description.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 4, 2018 06:03PM)
Thank you Micheal. My brother found 1/4" for hot rods feel right and 3/8" for paddles
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Dec 4, 2018 08:16PM)
Jake, I have found after buying many hot rods and paddles that the thickness of 1/4 always works fine, even the square rods that HomeDepot sells that are 1/4x1/4 I can do the paddle move with no issues.
However the width of the paddle is where I have a problem (where the gems sits), a width from 1/4 to 13/32 (.40") works ok for me (width of 1/4 to 3/8 is optimum), if the paddle is wider than 0.40" I have difficulties to do the rotation move with my thumb and index (always using 1/4 for thickness)
The reason of 0.40 (I was fabricating some rods myself) is because it allows you to use 8mm flat back Gems that for some paddles are very visible, most of the paddles use 6mm gems with few 7mm and almost none uses 8mm gems.

In terms of wood, many builders use walnut that provides a good contrast for the crystal gems, but I found it a little dark for the blues and reds gems, maple is too light for the crystal gems, so I prefer Cherry, not too dark not too light. This is just my taste and very subjective.

That's all my experience in paddles, hope it helps
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Dec 4, 2018 08:57PM)
Two more little things
1) The gems must be aligned, I have bought paddles where they were not, and while it is not noticeable when playing with it, I don't like it
2) There is a difference in Swarovski gems and the others, Swarovskis are brighter. Not sure how easy is to get them in all colors...

Again just my subjective opinion
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 8, 2018 03:10AM)
Thank you for the input Pablo, Frederick appreciates any input he can get. He's working on all different types of rods and paddles. Currently he's working on Black Ebony hot rods and some Paddles. For gem stones, he's using gems from my collection.
I spent years collecting gemstones from a broker in Bangkok so the gems are authentic. The diamonds I bought through my broker when I was younger are lab grown from Russia. They are now banned from being imported because they are so good.

I really do appreciate everyones ideas, opinions and help
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 28, 2019 11:59PM)
The trick that started all this was the Jamison's Spot Sticks from the book "My Best". It is fully described on page 170 to 172, you might want to take a look at where it all began.