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Topic: Extortion scam on Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Jan 25, 2019 03:33PM)
Someone has gotten my password here and is trying to extort Bitcoin from me.

They are threatening me with demonstratably false info.

If you read posts or PMs from " me" that don't seem right, don't believe it.

I would never ask for money from a member here in a PM.

- Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Dave Scribner (Jan 25, 2019 04:32PM)
I got a message last week from someone trying to extort Bitcoin. The message said I had been hacked and the guy had access to everything I had done on the computer and threatened to send web page screen shots to all my contacts if I didn't send him $500 within 36 hours. He even sent the message to me from my own email address to prove I had been hacked. I didn't send the $500 of course and nothing happened. You gotta be on the lookout all the time.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Jan 25, 2019 05:06PM)
😢 😪 😥 😧 😧 😕
This doesn't mean:
the 'love letter',
I received,
last week,...
from you,...
is bogus(!),
...does it?..! ☹️

,...probably does.

Well,
...i have the weekend,
to extort myself....
Thanks.
Gallagher

p.s.: If you want,
you can use my password. 🤗
Message: Posted by: lnlver (Jan 25, 2019 10:09PM)
I have received several of these messages. They say they know my passwords and have seized control of my camera and tracked my keyboard, while stating that they 'know' I have visited several sites. They claim to know when I am reading the message and give me 24 hours to send them Bitcoin.

However, I immediately knew this was a bogus claim, as I have taped over my camera for years now and it is impossible for them to see anything through it! I just ignore them and send them to the trash bin.

This is a well known scam; just ignore these, Mary.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 26, 2019 06:28AM)
One answer is, of course, to never post anything on the Internet that you do not want the world to know. (Mary might well fit that standard)

most scams are built on guilt or secrets. But, there does seem to be trend towards building on people's faulty memory as well.

Ever get a "Following up on our conversation last year, "when that never happened, or "you can unsubscribe" when you never subscribed in the first place?
There are also now "surveys" containing a false premise and a concealed sales message - or indoctrination. Naturally, any info you provide is sold.

My favorite is "Your friend Etienne used out service" when he lives in France and hardly needs a Tennessee pest control company.

Most media ads contain a lie of some sort based on "everybody is the same idiot" approach. For me this is a scam also.

I guess it just proves that it is easier to steal than work for a living.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 26, 2019 09:13AM)
Confidence men normally win trust which is why they are called confidence men.

This con, it seems to me, is about trust as the con man is trying to use Mary's good name.
Message: Posted by: Orville Smith (Jan 26, 2019 10:32AM)
Not only Mary but by coincidence I just got a text message on my phone stating that I owe a payment to Cash America Today.com. That is a legit website, although I've never had any previous contact with them. So should I disregard it as a scam too? Has anybody else had that similar experience?
Message: Posted by: imgic (Jan 26, 2019 11:38AM)
I miss they days when Iíd just get emails from Nigerian Princes who needed help getting their fortunes out of the country...
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Jan 26, 2019 12:03PM)
LOL! Ah, those were the days!
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Jan 26, 2019 12:06PM)
Maybe this happened because Mary is such a very vocal, extremely opinionated, high-profile, controversial rebel performer within the magic community!
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 26, 2019 12:13PM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2019, imgic wrote:
I miss they days when Iíd just get emails from Nigerian Princes who needed help getting their fortunes out of the country... [/quote]

But you never helped when I sent that so I stopped!
Message: Posted by: landmark (Jan 26, 2019 12:19PM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2019, imgic wrote:
I miss they days when Iíd just get emails from Nigerian Princes who needed help getting their fortunes out of the country... [/quote]

No, unfortunately, the Prince's fortune never made it out of the country. He had hidden his money in the Royal Garden, underground, and when he went to dig it up, the bills had all decayed and become worthless. He tried everything, including hiring some of the top soil experts to try to save the bills, but distressingly nothing could be done. I know because I sent him money for the shovels and backhoes he used, as well as for the consulting fees of the soil experts. But, no, not even that could help. Oh, well, not everything in life works out...
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Jan 26, 2019 02:15PM)
Thank you all.

I had a feeling I was not the only one.

One of the things that really bothered me was the assertion that the scammer was just trying to be paid for the time and research they had done.

-Mary
Message: Posted by: S2000magician (Jan 26, 2019 02:18PM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2019, Mary Mowder wrote:
One of the things that really bothered me was the assertion that the scammer was just trying to be paid for the time and research they had done.[/quote]
That one's probably legitimate.

It's not as if someone's going to come to the scammer and give them a free list of possible marks, with background information, contact information, and so on. I'm sure that the scammer had to put real time and effort into finding his victims.
Message: Posted by: Dave Scribner (Jan 26, 2019 04:17PM)
Glad to see you back Mary.
Message: Posted by: Orville Smith (Jan 26, 2019 04:25PM)
Somebody else answered my question about the supposed text from cashamericatoday.com. Apparently the call was legit. In other words it was an honest mistake of a wrong number, the number that was used by the phone's previous-user. That makes sense as I just bought this new phone recently.
Message: Posted by: TomBoleware (Jan 26, 2019 04:49PM)
Iíve heard about the IRS phone scammers, and I got a recorded call from them not long ago saying they had a warrant for my arrest if I didnít pay up, they gave me the number to call to make the payment.
Knowing it wasn't real, I called just to see what they would say; a womnn answered the phone and started screaming at kids to be quite so I laughed and hung up. Havenít heard back.

Tom
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Jan 26, 2019 05:28PM)
A lot of peoples passwords have been hacked over the last couple of years and it looks like the scammers have used this list of hacked passwords to try and frighten people into paying them extortion money. I've gotten three such emails, each demanding anywhere between $3000 and $7000 to be paid in bitcoin. I don't remember exactly where I saw it but I also was able to download a list that showed what passwords of mine had been known to be hacked.

I now use password software that generates my passwords and stores them all in a single heavily encrypted file. I only have to remember 1 password now to get into the software and since it's only 1 password, I can make it relatively complex. (I can remember 1 complex password, not 100!)
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Feb 7, 2019 01:06PM)
[quote]On Jan 25, 2019, Dave Scribner wrote:
I got a message last week from someone trying to extort Bitcoin. The message said I had been hacked and the guy had access to everything I had done on the computer and threatened to send web page screen shots to all my contacts if I didn't send him $500 within 36 hours. He even sent the message to me from my own email address to prove I had been hacked. I didn't send the $500 of course and nothing happened. You gotta be on the lookout all the time. [/quote]
I'd ask him to send it all to me just in case I forgot to record it myself!!!!! :bigsmile:
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Feb 7, 2019 01:41PM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2019, rockwall wrote:
A lot of peoples passwords have been hacked over the last couple of years and it looks like the scammers have used this list of hacked passwords to try and frighten people into paying them extortion money. I've gotten three such emails, each demanding anywhere between $3000 and $7000 to be paid in bitcoin. I don't remember exactly where I saw it but I also was able to download a list that showed what passwords of mine had been known to be hacked.

I now use password software that generates my passwords and stores them all in a single heavily encrypted file. I only have to remember 1 password now to get into the software and since it's only 1 password, I can make it relatively complex. (I can remember 1 complex password, not 100!) [/quote]

What software is this?
Message: Posted by: slowkneenuh (Feb 7, 2019 05:32PM)
One such software is LastPass.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Feb 9, 2019 02:47PM)
Yes, LastPass is the one I am currently using.