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Topic: Coloring Book - The Original - still ok to use?
Message: Posted by: JAEIII (Jan 31, 2019 08:02AM)
I've taken a break from magic (it's been a few years since my last show). For nearly 15 years, however, I always opened my show with the good old coloring book (3 ways....black and white, colored, blank). It was a quick visual trick to get the audience going and kids have always loved it. I did a show recently for a school. After the show, the teacher made a comment to me that one of her students mentioned to her that she owned that trick. The teacher inferred from the student that she had gotten it from a magic kit her parents gave her.

I know the coloring book can be described as overly used, but is it now available wide-spread in magic kits? I avoid doing magic that can be bought in retail shops and toy stores. I've often thought about replacing it with something else, but I've found it hard to find a new opener that has such a visual magic impact. I just moved back to my original home town and I'd like to get my magic going again. I just want to make sure I'm performing a show consisting of magic that the kids don't already own.

Thoughts? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Jan 31, 2019 08:41AM)
Some may disagree, My opinion is that I think it is still very ok to use. Depends entirely upon the presentation. Yes a lot of 'tricks' are in magic kits today, but that shouldn't hinder us from using them. Go for it. The tt is a great example, there are millions sold in dollar stores even, but through proper presentation and handling, no one mentions it. You may have one or two kids here and there that mention the book....it's ok, let them be proud of and brag of being in the "know" so to speak.

As you say in your tagline: Believe In Magic....I do! - It is the presentation that makes it magical.

Welcome back to magic!
Message: Posted by: torben (Jan 31, 2019 01:00PM)
Well, some tricks are in the Magic kits - and others are revealed on YouTube. But if we presend our show well it doesnít matter. Some times the kids woulnít even recognize that weíre using the same tricks.
Message: Posted by: psychod (Jan 31, 2019 01:23PM)
I think a lot is in your presentation of the effect. I've shown people a paddle effect when they know the paddle effect but I tell a story throughout and people enjoy it just the same.

Dave
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Jan 31, 2019 03:51PM)
In the "Kid Show Magic" section of the Magic Nook, you can find my "Coloring Book Revisited" in which you make your own coloring book trick from a couple of Dollar Store coloring books. Advantages: The book will look like the real thing because it is the real thing and not a book that has been colored in by a printing press rather than by actual crayons. Also, you can use books with Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse or other trademarked characters - legally -because you bought the rights when you bought the books. Following my routine, you can use a book that hasn't been colored in to start the routine, switch it for the "magic" book you made so the colors gradually fill in or completely fill in (your choice), and at the end of the routine, the colors "fall out of the book" so you can give the book and a small set of crayons to the spectator who helped you, and he or she can take the book home and color it in and wonder why it doesn't work like the one in that magic set or as seen on YouTube.
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Jan 31, 2019 04:38PM)
[quote]On Jan 31, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
In the "Kid Show Magic" section of the Magic Nook, you can find my "Coloring Book Revisited" in which you make your own coloring book trick from a couple of Dollar Store coloring books. Advantages: The book will look like the real thing because it is the real thing and not a book that has been colored in by a printing press rather than by actual crayons. Also, you can use books with Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse or other trademarked characters - legally -because you bought the rights when you bought the books. Following my routine, you can use a book that hasn't been colored in to start the routine, switch it for the "magic" book you made so the colors gradually fill in or completely fill in (your choice), and at the end of the routine, the colors "fall out of the book" so you can give the book and a small set of crayons to the spectator who helped you, and he or she can take the book home and color it in and wonder why it doesn't work like the one in that magic set or as seen on YouTube. [/quote]

Thatís right Jim has some fantastic things. I had forgotten about the coloring book! You cannot go wrong with any MagicNook items!
Message: Posted by: TKD27 (Feb 6, 2019 01:21PM)
I think it's fine. Yeah, it's in some magic kits, but not a big deal. My only recommendation is to get the yellow version with clowns instead of the red version. I'm more concerned about the kids that have seen another magician do it than I am the one kid I'll see a year that owns the coloring book. But using a different looking book sets it apart.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Feb 6, 2019 01:51PM)
Quick fix to fool the kids who recognize the cover- go to Dollar Store and get some coloring books the same size, remove the covers, attach a new cover to the old coloring book with craft glue dots. After the show, put the cover back on the coloring book from whence you tore it, and give it to one of the kids as a prize to color at your very next show.
Message: Posted by: JAEIII (Feb 6, 2019 03:42PM)
[quote]On Feb 6, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
Quick fix to fool the kids who recognize the cover- go to Dollar Store and get some coloring books the same size, remove the covers, attach a new cover to the old coloring book with craft glue dots. After the show, put the cover back on the coloring book from whence you tore it, and give it to one of the kids as a prize to color at your very next show. [/quote]

Fantastic Idea!
Message: Posted by: padre rich (Feb 26, 2019 09:17AM)
Flip books were hand drawn long before the printing press.magic history reveals that bosco had one that he took great care to protect from damage that had five changes this would have been an astounding effect in his day,near to witchcraft...the coloring book is a perfect opening item to gauge the sophistication of an audience.it always gets an audible reaction...once in a while a kid will yell out that they have one at home.just say "well,don't tell me how it works,i LIKE to be fooled." transition from that laugh to your next effect...
Message: Posted by: David French (Feb 28, 2019 10:07AM)
I have been using the original Coloring book for decades. Never had an issue. It works, surprisingly the adults really like it too, every time. I think we tend to overthink things as magicians.
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Mar 2, 2019 01:50PM)
[quote]On Feb 6, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
Quick fix to fool the kids who recognize the cover- go to Dollar Store and get some coloring books the same size, remove the covers, attach a new cover to the old coloring book with craft glue dots. After the show, put the cover back on the coloring book from whence you tore it, and give it to one of the kids as a prize to color at your very next show. [/quote]

GREAT idea!!! And to make it even simpler, just buy a few of the same Dollar Tree coloring books and have them already on hand, ready to give away. Thanks for a superb idea, Jim.
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Mar 2, 2019 01:57PM)
[quote]On Jan 31, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
In the "Kid Show Magic" section of the Magic Nook, you can find my "Coloring Book Revisited" in which you make your own coloring book trick from a couple of Dollar Store coloring books. Advantages: The book will look like the real thing because it is the real thing and not a book that has been colored in by a printing press rather than by actual crayons. Also, you can use books with Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse or other trademarked characters - legally -because you bought the rights when you bought the books. Following my routine, you can use a book that hasn't been colored in to start the routine, switch it for the "magic" book you made so the colors gradually fill in or completely fill in (your choice), and at the end of the routine, the colors "fall out of the book" so you can give the book and a small set of crayons to the spectator who helped you, and he or she can take the book home and color it in and wonder why it doesn't work like the one in that magic set or as seen on YouTube. [/quote]

This looks very interesting. Just ordered it. $5.00 is a genuine bargain. If you like, I'll review it for you, if that hasn't already been done. Looking forward to reading it.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Mar 2, 2019 05:23PM)
Got your order and sent it off. Sorry about the "verification" thing, but we've been getting a lot of non-magicians and beginners looking just for secrets with no idea how to perform them and then wanting their money back when they discover (gasp!) that they actually have to build the props themselves.
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Mar 3, 2019 06:32PM)
[quote]On Mar 2, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
Got your order and sent it off. Sorry about the "verification" thing, but we've been getting a lot of non-magicians and beginners looking just for secrets with no idea how to perform them and then wanting their money back when they discover (gasp!) that they actually have to build the props themselves. [/quote]

No worries. It was a simple matter to verify. Have a great day, Jim.
Message: Posted by: jamiedoyle (Mar 14, 2019 08:39AM)
It may be in magic kits, but the percentage of children owning that particular magic kits is probably very low. I just performed the Coloring book for 2 different groups this week and not one child told me he/she had seen it or owned it -- nor did I hear anyone exclaim that they knew how it was done. It got a great response from both audiences.
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Mar 29, 2019 03:35PM)
I've used it thousands of times, and yes you will get the occasional "I know that one!" but any experienced kidsmagish knows how to handle that! What I really wish was still around was the 6-way coloring book, which included scribbles, words, and mixed-up colors. (too darn lazy to make one myself!) When I use the MCB, I always include at least 1 or 2 other effects with it, such as the rainbow-nesting wands or a rainbow mouth-coil.
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (May 11, 2019 02:03PM)
I still do the coloring book for kids ages 4 to 6 or 7. I have one of the ones with scribbles and blank pages (Nursery Rhymes by I think Fun Magic, no longer made). The kids love it and it fools a lot of the adults. If I do a birthday party for someone who has seen my show, I ask them what tricks they want me to repeat. They almost always say the coloring book (and the multilated parasol).
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (May 11, 2019 03:25PM)
Meir Yedid has the latest variation on the coloring book - The Mueller Report (flip book): It can show as all blank, full of words, or all redacted (black lines). You work out the humor for yourself depending on your politics. No, I don't have this at The Magic Nook, and yes, I wish I'd thought of it first! Here it is on his site: https://www.mymagic.com/p/close-up-magic/mueller-report-flip-book-sam-sleibhin The little darlings won't "get it" but their parents should.
Message: Posted by: oagwood (Jul 19, 2019 02:22PM)
Always good. It's like anything when you do it well the people that know how to do it most likely will say that theirs works differently.
Message: Posted by: TomB (Jul 25, 2019 04:25AM)
As long as you can execute it correctly. If you say blank pages, and they are colored, it does not work.

If you say non colored, and a few pages show colored, it can be an issue. You need to be able to hold the book correctly and pan left and right.

I think it is acceptable for anyone under the age of 14, but targeted to those under 8 years of age
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 2, 2019 07:09PM)
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[quote]On Mar 2, 2019, jimgerrish wrote:
Got your order and sent it off. Sorry about the "verification" thing, but we've been getting a lot of non-magicians and beginners looking just for secrets with no idea how to perform them and then wanting their money back when they discover (gasp!) that they actually have to build the props themselves. [/quote]

[quote]On Mar 3, 2019, MichaelCGM wrote
No worries. It was a simple matter to verify. Have a great day, Jim. [/quote]


How can a magician verify that he (or she) is a magician when we all know that all magicianís lie :magicrabbit:
Message: Posted by: MeetMagicMike (Aug 2, 2019 11:02PM)
I open my kids shows with the coloring book.

"Hey kids, raise your hand if you've ever seen the magic coloring book"......"Great, You'll be really good at this"

This takes away the value of saying "I know this one". Usually, almost all the kids raise their hand because
the ones who have never seen the trick think you are just asking if they've seen a coloring book.

I also tell the kids that I am using that trick to see who can follow directions and who can be quiet when it time to be quiet and loud when it's time to be loud.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Aug 3, 2019 12:23AM)
[quote]On Aug 2, 2019, Howie Diddot wrote:
How can a magician verify that he (or she) is a magician when we all know that all magicianís lie :magicrabbit: [/quote]
It helps if you know that in advance you're dealing with someone who lies, cheats and steals for a living! But there are ways to prove that you use your cheating, stealing and lies for entertainment purposes and that's all we require.

As for the coloring book, try passing out the coloring book to the audience and let them find a picture they would like to have you color by magic. Then take back the book, vanish some crayons and turn the pages of the book they just handled from black and white line drawings to crayon colored drawings. For a finale, roll the book up and pour out the previously vanished crayons. They just sit there with their little mouths and eyes open wide with surprise... better than applause.
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 3, 2019 06:58PM)
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[quote]On Aug 2, 2019, Howie Diddot wrote:
How can a magician verify that he (or she) is a magician when we all know that all magicianís lie :magicrabbit: [/quote]


[quote]On Aug 2, 2019, jimgerrish wroteIt helps if you know that in advance you're dealing with someone who lies, cheats and steals for a living! But there are ways to prove that you use your cheating, stealing and lies for entertainment purposes and that's all we require.

As for the coloring book, try passing out the coloring book to the audience and let them find a picture they would like to have you color by magic. Then take back the book, vanish some crayons and turn the pages of the book they just handled from black and white line drawings to crayon colored drawings. For a finale, roll the book up and pour out the previously vanished crayons. They just sit there with their little mouths and eyes open wide with surprise... better than applause. [/quote]

Jim this sounds like a good routine, how much woud this trick cost if you assemble it and ship it to me?

Buzz
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Aug 3, 2019 07:38PM)
[quote]On Aug 3, 2019, Howie Diddot wrote:

Jim this sounds like a good routine, how much would this trick cost if you assemble it and ship it to me?

Buzz [/quote]

$895.00 plus postage. I don't work cheap! This is not rocket science, nor even Magi-tronics we are discussing. You get some coloring books from Dollar Tree or whatever your local Dollar Store is called. You get some crayons. You spend some time coloring in the books according to my directions. You do some cutting and pasting. You work out your routine and perhaps make some of the suggested complimentary props. You end up with a trick you can be proud of that no one else in the known universe has, and if anything happens to it, you know how to make it again. Priceless.

https://www.magicnook.com/kidmagic/kidshow.htm and scroll down to item #4.
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Aug 11, 2019 02:29PM)
[quote]On Aug 2, 2019, MeetMagicMike wrote:

"Hey kids, raise your hand if you've ever seen the magic coloring book"......"Great, You'll be really good at this"


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Genius!!!!!