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Topic: Attention Stage Card Manipulators
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 11, 2004 02:47PM)
Just found these very useful card droppers and Card Holder for manipulators.

Kukuchi made a card holder similiar to this in the 1980's. Gold medal winner won with this device and his fickle fire routine.

Card dropper:
[url=http://mall.eshop.co.jp/mall/cgi-bin/wm10/wm10_99186/st/ws20_9800/main/browse.cgi?final_pick=y&cust_cat=STAGE_Card&cat_cat_max=5&cust_id=10310000056750&in_store=1044&cust_cat_index=3&pick_flag=y&setup_value=1&cleanup=n&item_id=S_CARD011]Click here.[/url]

Card holder:
[url=http://mall.eshop.co.jp/mall/cgi-bin/wm10/wm10_99186/st/ws20_9800/main/browse.cgi?final_pick=y&cust_cat=STAGE_Card&cat_cat_max=5&cust_id=10310000056750&in_store=1044&cust_cat_index=4&pick_flag=y&setup_value=1&cleanup=n&item_id=S_CARD012]Click here.[/url]

These are very good tools.

Sorry, I have been informed that the links do not work, I did not post 'Click here', I posted the complete address.

http://UGM.co.jp/

Here is the main site. In the lower left corner is the word English. Click it. On left will be catagories. I think they are in stage products.
Message: Posted by: illusions & reality (May 11, 2004 10:58PM)
Any idea how much these items are in U.S. currency?
Lou
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (May 12, 2004 04:00AM)
From Xe.Com, the prices are as following:


53.2915 USD for the first product, and

88.8191 USD for the second one.

That is presuming the prices are in Japanese Yen.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 12, 2004 04:45AM)
Price is not the question. They are very valuable devices to the stage manipulator.

Any currency conversion available on the internet will give you the price. Your charge card company will convert for you when they receive the charge.

These look very well made. Kukuchi made them out of tin. These look much better constructed then the ones I have.

The card holder is used by just grabbing the coat collar along the front. Zap, a full deck of cards delivered to your hand for a magicial production.
Message: Posted by: markis (May 12, 2004 06:55AM)
Didn't McBride sell some power tools like this for awhile? I don't see them on his site now.
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (May 12, 2004 03:36PM)
Discontinued, only what's left in stock now.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 22, 2004 02:07AM)
Just heard from Mark Stevens of Stevens Magic. He was kind enough to get the Sakah Card Holder from Japan and has them in stock for shipment. No price was quoted, but I will have mine in a few days and report/review for the Café members.

http://www.stevensmagic.com
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Sep 22, 2004 08:49AM)
I have a bunch of card clips as I love gimmicks and body loads. I tend to collect them. Yeah I know I am a weird one hehe.

I still find the McBride one that he teaches on the tapes or DVDs works the best for me. It is simple and versatile and so easy to rig up and make at basically no cost to you.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Sep 22, 2004 11:07AM)
I got one 2 weeks ago from Wladimir Mikek who was in Japan on UGM convention. It works great. I have changed rubber bands with black ones to prevent flashing. There are no instructions how to pin it in your jacket but everyone has to find the best position for himself.

[url=http://mall.eshop.co.jp/mall/cgi-bin/wm10/wm10_99186/st/ws20_9800/main/browse.cgi?final_pick=y&cust_cat=%a5%d3%a5%c7%a5%aa%a1%a1UGM%a5%d3%a5%c7%a5%aa&cat_cat_max=39&cust_id=10310000079709&in_store=1031&cust_cat_index=14&pick_flag=y&setup_value=1&cleanup=n&item_id=V_UGM014]Here[/url] is a link to Sakoh`s video tape on card manipulation and his card holder
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 22, 2004 06:40PM)
Nice to see someone who liked quality usable gimmicks that really deliever (pun).

Instructions will be included when ordering from Stevens Magic, as I have been honored by a request to write up a set.

Update: Oct 22 2004

It really took a lot of work, but I convinenced Stevens Magic to get both of the card gimmicks. He only has the dropper on his site currently, but he does have both in stock.

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=5792

They are better then the original, heavy gauge metal and works smoothly. I am always surprized how simple solutions create great gimmicks. I have installed both on my jacket and am very excited how well they perform the operation of delivering cards.

The Holder only fits the current Nielsen Manipulation cards or bridge size cards. If using a regular size bridge Bee cards, then less then half a deck will fit in the Holder. This is fine as this will allow a surprise fan appearence in my left hand.

The Dropper takes all cards up to Poker size. So it is great for all decks.

I have been working with them for a week now. They are a necessary gimmick for the card manipulator.

I had to wait 30 years since I seen Sakoh perform his fantastic ground breaking magic act of cards and Fickle Fire. I have finally received the proper gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Oct 23, 2004 07:40AM)
I still like using the method that McBride shows on his DVDs. For me his is great because it can handle and hold smaller volumes of cards. Most of the other gimmicks require a larger stack of cards otherwise they do not hold them that well.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 23, 2004 11:28AM)
Kyle,

I am sorry you do not see the revolutionary advantage of these gimmicks for the card manipulator. If you has seen Sakoh act as I did in the late 1970's, you would be begging for these devices. His act started a desire for card magic and fire like none to date. It still lives on as every dealer tries to copy fickle fire but none get it right.

Speaking of Fickle Fire, the original ,INTERLOCKING MODEL, will be available soon from Stevens Magic very shortly. It will include written instructions of Sakoh's act as he peformed it for the IBM Convention in Washington D.C.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Oct 24, 2004 10:21AM)
This is excellent, wmhegbli! Very pricey, but as you said, worth it to someone who wants the best. Thanks for your diligence in getting these items to Stevens Magic.

Ron
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Oct 24, 2004 05:58PM)
WM:

Oh do not get me wrong. I love these new gimmicks and certainly can see how they can be a HUGE help for anyone. I collect all gimmicks and will probably get these as well. They certainly can and should be in any manipulator's tool kit.

I was just mentioning that at times, I like to experiment with building my own clips when I need one to hold a limited stack.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 25, 2004 11:58AM)
I make my own gimmicks as well, but when something this nice comes along I grab it. Now that we have the internet, I can finally locate professional magic items.

Pricey yes, but not unreasonable. There is a price where I would have to let it go, but this is not in that range.
Message: Posted by: iwillfoolu (Jan 14, 2005 08:26PM)
His auto card delivery system is AWESOME. you cannot ask for a more effective system. I LOVE both of mine. I also bought the dropper which has a different release that the norm nielsen version. I also have his video (yes it is in Japanese) I bought a Japanese language course in CD and am working toward better understanding what he is saying although I understand just from the visual direction. A must buy for any serious manipulating student or performer.

Joe
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Jan 16, 2005 09:34AM)
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On 2005-01-14 21:26, iwillfoolu wrote:
His auto card delivery system is AWESOME. you cannot ask for a more effective system. I LOVE both of mine. I also bought the dropper which has a different release that the norm nielsen version. I also have his video (yes it is in Japanese) I bought a Japanese language course in CD and am working toward better understanding what he is saying although I understand just from the visual direction. A must buy for any serious manipulating student or performer.

Joe
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Where would one buy it? The video, that is.
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Jan 16, 2005 01:46PM)
http://www.aivideo.co.jp
Thay have Sakoh video on card manipulation but the owner doesn`t speek a word of English. They have some very good videos you can not find anywhere elese.
Message: Posted by: NickJegor (Jan 17, 2005 04:38PM)
Yes thoese thing are very usefull!
I remember when I saw Norbert Ferre on F.I.S.M 2003 he used holder like that!
Very usefull thing I interest in price ($ or ˆ)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Moro (Feb 28, 2005 08:55PM)
Wmhegbli -
Thank you for sharing this find with the rest of us. I am very interested in them both. May I ask you what the difference between a holder & a dropper is? I've always thought of them as interchangeable. Second, for years, I've been stealing about 60 Neilsen cards from behind my leg during my act and the dropper is not 100%, so I'm looking for alternatives. My thumb is holding something out, so it's unavailable to me in stealing. My other 4 fingers grip the front, short end of the card and hold them out against the palm. Do any of the 2 gimmicks you mentioned apply to my kind of steal? If so, which? Thanks very much!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 1, 2005 02:33AM)
Christopher,

The Holder ejects the cards into your hand at chest level or or that area. The dropper is at the edge of the coat or vest to fall into your fingers. I would say both are useable for your purpose. A finger grip is all that is required.


Stevens Magic has both for sale, contact Mark Stevens and he can help you further.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Moro (Mar 1, 2005 03:59AM)
Thanks alot, wmhegbli. I appreciate your quick response!