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Topic: New book from Steve Forte
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Feb 19, 2019 08:57PM)
Hey all,

Has anyone seen the Sal Piacente Penguin Lecture? Sal mentioned that Steve will be releasing a book and apparently his TRS system will be revealed in there (the system used in Sal's 'rain man' effect). Does anyone have more information on when Steve is planning to release this and approximate price?
Thanks!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Feb 19, 2019 10:26PM)
We have been hearing that he is about to release a new book for years and one day I guess he will.
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Feb 19, 2019 11:55PM)
[quote]On Feb 19, 2019, tommy wrote:
We have been hearing that he is about to release a new book for years and one day I guess he will. [/quote]

LOL
Message: Posted by: Bobbycash (Feb 20, 2019 02:50AM)
Last update I heard was that photos were being taken.
Message: Posted by: byronblaq1 (Feb 20, 2019 04:06AM)
Iíve heard itís about 6 months off. This was about two weeks ago.
Message: Posted by: jjsanvert (Feb 20, 2019 06:45AM)
Steve's book is over 1000 pages and on its way.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Bones (Feb 20, 2019 09:12AM)
Forte's books are excellent regardless of their specific subject matter.

As much as I enjoy reading and re-reading his Casino and Poker books, it's actually his "Read the Dealer" that's had the most impact on changing how I thought about cheating with playing cards.
This obviously goes back to a different Blackjack era, but it was with "Read the Dealer"' that I first felt I was reading actual inside information ... I still pull it out a re-read it regularly enough to be repeatedly impressed with what Forte had put to paper, much of it for the very first time.

Forte has, to date, seemed to have some of his "tricks" brought to light by others, Piacante and Malone among them. Those effects are routinely excellent, so this new book will no doubt be quite impressive regardless of what it contains.
I don't purchase "magic" books any longer, and never did purchase "memory" books, but a new Forte book would have to be an exception to that rule due to the broad depth of knowledge shown over the years by the author.
Message: Posted by: Cagliostro (Feb 20, 2019 10:38AM)
[quote]On Feb 20, 2019, jjsanvert wrote:
Steve's book is over 1000 pages and on its way. [/quote]

WOW, 1,000 pages. It's not a novel, is it?

Well, whatever it is I'm sure it will be excellent and a worthwhile purchase.
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Feb 20, 2019 12:21PM)
Thanks for the info everybody! 1000 pages?! That'll keep me busy for a while!
Message: Posted by: jjsanvert (Feb 20, 2019 04:16PM)
And more than 1400 pictures. I am sure Jason can give much more details.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Feb 21, 2019 12:22PM)
My totally uneducated guess is that the book will have considerably fewer than 1000 pages in its finished form. I don't think the economics of book publishing will allow it.
Message: Posted by: popcalinda (Feb 22, 2019 03:03PM)
It should be two books set project
Message: Posted by: tommy (Feb 22, 2019 05:14PM)
What odds can I get about it not being out by Chrismas or is it illegal to gamble at this here Gambling Spot?
Message: Posted by: popcalinda (Feb 23, 2019 10:33AM)
It should be out in a few months, 4-5
Message: Posted by: JasonEngland (Feb 25, 2019 11:43PM)
I was present for 80% of the photoshoots (there were 5, I think). I have a 1000 page draft on my desktop, with photos in place. Aiming to go to press very soon. Whether that means weeks or months is tough to say, but definitely out before the fall. 2 volumes in a slipcase. No other way to produce anything that big. About 10 guys have read it already. All of them say the same thing: I needed this 30 years ago!

Jason
Message: Posted by: supremefiction (Feb 26, 2019 08:30AM)
Thank you Jason. Will there be a mailing list or some other best method to get advance notice, to be ready to place an order? Like a waiting list.
Message: Posted by: supremefiction (Feb 26, 2019 09:28AM)
The Bible had two volumes also. Coincidence?
Message: Posted by: scottvraneshfallin (Feb 26, 2019 11:48AM)
[quote]On Feb 25, 2019, JasonEngland wrote:
About 10 guys have read it already. All of them say the same thing: I needed this 30 years ago!

Jason [/quote]

I suppose there is a benefit to my getting serious about playing cards so late in life. I'll be able to benefit from this knowledge.
Message: Posted by: Cagliostro (Feb 26, 2019 01:29PM)
#Jason: Sounds interesting. Can you give us some idea as to what this two volume set covers?
Message: Posted by: Paul H (Feb 26, 2019 02:31PM)
Hi Cag,

There have been glimpses of what this double volume may contain. I first heard about it from Jason Englands download 'At the Card Table'. Richard Hatch via the internet asked him to confirm that the book was real. Jason generously obliged saying it was a tomb specifically written for the magical community. He further stated that he had seen some of the work on 'Expert at the Card Table' and it had blown him away. As mentioned by Impromptu boy Steve Forte's mysterious TRS memory system will also be explained for the first time. Im also guessing that many of Steve's hand mucking moves, deck switches and so forth will be exposed. This is but a fraction of what we can expect and I'm sure those of us who really care about excellence in card handling and technique will be frantically waving credit cards, cheque books and bankers drafts when it becomes available. I know I will.

Best wishes,

Pau H
Message: Posted by: jjsanvert (Feb 26, 2019 05:11PM)
Some 180 pages of comments on Erdnase, some 80 methods to get the 4 aces (Steveís favorite effect), shuffles, moves - you name it.
I already know it will be the greatest work ever done on the subject, by the greatest expert ever.
Message: Posted by: byronblaq1 (Feb 26, 2019 06:11PM)
Canít wait.
Message: Posted by: Cagliostro (Feb 26, 2019 09:34PM)
[quote]On Feb 26, 2019, Paul H wrote:
Hi Cag,

... This is but a fraction of what we can expect and I'm sure those of us who really care about excellence in card handling and technique will be frantically waving credit cards, cheque books and bankers drafts when it becomes available. I know I will.

Pau H [/quote]

Thanks Paul. Do you think it advisable to move significant funds from offshore accounts to be ready to make this purchase?
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Feb 26, 2019 09:40PM)
May I ask if it will have much of the same material that was in Steve's Casino and Poker books ?
Will there be a lot of new information, ideas and perspectives ?
Approximately what % repeat ?
Message: Posted by: jjsanvert (Feb 26, 2019 11:42PM)
From what I wrote, you can expect a lot more informations. I mean a lot.
Fully explained with over 1400 photos.
Message: Posted by: Paul H (Feb 27, 2019 12:58AM)
[quote]On Feb 26, 2019, Cagliostro wrote:
[quote]On Feb 26, 2019, Paul H wrote:
Hi Cag,

... This is but a fraction of what we can expect and I'm sure those of us who really care about excellence in card handling and technique will be frantically waving credit cards, cheque books and bankers drafts when it becomes available. I know I will.

Pau H [/quote]

Thanks Paul. Do you think it advisable to move significant funds from offshore accounts to be ready to make this purchase? [/quote]

An excellent precaution to avoid bankrupcy and disappointment🤓
:pirate:
Message: Posted by: JasonEngland (Feb 27, 2019 04:50AM)
[quote]On Feb 26, 2019, Expertmagician wrote:
May I ask if it will have much of the same material that was in Steve's Casino and Poker books ?
Will there be a lot of new information, ideas and perspectives ?
Approximately what % repeat ? [/quote]

There is virtually zero overlap. This book is the 1000 page written version of sessioning with Steve for 10 hours.

Jason
Message: Posted by: Peterson (Feb 27, 2019 10:08AM)
Will it be limited in copies? How many copies at start?
Message: Posted by: popcalinda (Feb 27, 2019 12:20PM)
Can we preorder? :)
Message: Posted by: JasonEngland (Feb 27, 2019 01:10PM)
Undecided on number of copies, but ~ 1500 is what we've been discussing. Plenty to go around. Because of the size, it'll be expensive - in the neighborhood of $300 US plus shipping.

No preordering yet, but we have discussed it and it will probably be an option once the books are at the printer.

Jason
Message: Posted by: Peterson (Feb 27, 2019 02:22PM)
Thank you for the heads-up Jason.
Message: Posted by: Cagliostro (Feb 27, 2019 04:22PM)
The Gambling Spot has been pretty quiet and then some guy by the name of Steve Forte writes a book, which has not even been published yet, and this BB comes to life.

Who is this guy? His name sounds familiar but I can't quite place him.

But whatever he is doing it has piqued my curiosity. Hope he knows something about card moves.
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Feb 27, 2019 07:51PM)
[quote]On Feb 27, 2019, JasonEngland wrote:
[quote]On Feb 26, 2019, Expertmagician wrote:
May I ask if it will have much of the same material that was in Steve's Casino and Poker books ?
Will there be a lot of new information, ideas and perspectives ?
Approximately what % repeat ? [/quote]

There is virtually zero overlap. This book is the 1000 page written version of sessioning with Steve for 10 hours.

Jason [/quote]


Great news ! Thanks !
Message: Posted by: Bobbycash (Feb 28, 2019 01:32AM)
Looking forward to it Jason!
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Feb 28, 2019 07:16PM)
Thanks for the info Jason, looking forward to this project!
Message: Posted by: andrew_green (Mar 27, 2019 05:32AM)
Awesome! This is fantastic to hear, I'm looking forward to it :)
Message: Posted by: tommy (Mar 27, 2019 09:15AM)
Is the book a "New book from Steve Forte" or a New book from Jason based on sessioning with Steve for 10 hours?
Message: Posted by: scottvraneshfallin (Mar 27, 2019 10:40AM)
[quote]On Mar 27, 2019, tommy wrote:
Is the book a "New book from Steve Forte" or a New book from Jason based on sessioning with Steve for 10 hours? [/quote]

The consensus seems to be Mr. Forte wrote this book.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Mar 27, 2019 02:09PM)
"This book is the 1000 page written version of sessioning with Steve for 10 hours." -Jason

What does that mean?
Message: Posted by: tommy (Mar 27, 2019 06:33PM)
The consensus seems to be you don't know. :)
Message: Posted by: Bobbycash (Mar 27, 2019 11:17PM)
The book is written by Steve, I think the analogy is that it is what would Steve show you if you sessioned with him for 10 hours
Message: Posted by: tommy (Mar 29, 2019 01:59AM)
I see. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: AntonF (Apr 23, 2019 01:16AM)
Will the book include any DVD or link to the performance of the moves. That will be interesting...
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Apr 23, 2019 05:17PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, AntonF wrote:
Will the book include any DVD or link to the performance of the moves. That will be interesting... [/quote]

That would be awesome! I doubt there would be any footage though. But if there are 1400 photographs like jjsanvert had mentioned, there's your footage right there LOL.

I'm anxiously waiting for an update regarding this project. Jason, As soon as a pre-order option becomes available, I'm in!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Apr 23, 2019 08:06PM)
Yes that it is a nice idea. Some prefer books and others prefer films and both would be good. I think it has been done more or less with Erdnase.
Message: Posted by: hcs (Apr 24, 2019 05:13AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, ImpromptuBoy wrote:
... I'm anxiously waiting for an update regarding this project. Jason, As soon as a pre-order option becomes available, I'm in![/quote]
Me too!
Message: Posted by: andrew_green (Apr 24, 2019 06:38AM)
Also would love to hear when pre-order may be available, exciting times!
Message: Posted by: AsL (Apr 27, 2019 03:29PM)
Count me in, too!
Message: Posted by: popcalinda (Apr 28, 2019 05:30AM)
Me too!
Message: Posted by: CARDTALK (Apr 29, 2019 04:22PM)
I think everyone is super excited. I haven't picked up a pack of cards for about 6 months now I feel like locking myself away in a room with just this new Forte book for a few months!. Looking forward to buying a copy!
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Apr 29, 2019 06:58PM)
I think that's exactly what I'm going to do once I get the book 😁 Minus not picking up a deck for 6 months lol but honestly, I don't think I've ever been so excited about a project like I am with this one. The suspense is killing me!
Message: Posted by: CARDTALK (Apr 30, 2019 10:25AM)
Me too, I think I will be here every day for updates. Maybe Jason will be the first to come back with any updates and more importantly where we can pre-order!
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Apr 30, 2019 12:25PM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2019, CARDTALK wrote:
Me too, I think I will be here every day for updates. Maybe Jason will be the first to come back with any updates and more importantly where we can pre-order! [/quote]

Amen!
Message: Posted by: disgruntledpuffin (Apr 30, 2019 04:09PM)
As a minimalist I'm not usually one for pre-ordering or getting hugely excited about products. This is very different. I've been waiting for this book since before it was even confirmed to exist....just year after year of hoping it would one day be written! :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Apr 30, 2019 07:37PM)
Put me down for a pre-order.
Message: Posted by: T.Koldo (May 1, 2019 08:55AM)
Waiting for the pre-order.
Message: Posted by: camron (May 1, 2019 04:08PM)
I just burned my library because I figure this will be the only card book I'll need, so hopefully this book really becomes a reality or I'm screwed!!!
Message: Posted by: CARDTALK (May 1, 2019 05:58PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2019, camron wrote:
I just burned my library because I figure this will be the only card book I'll need, so hopefully this book really becomes a reality or I'm screwed!!! [/quote]

Hahahaha.... that's funny.
Message: Posted by: blackstone99 (May 10, 2019 10:54AM)
Looks wonderful.
Message: Posted by: Scharin (May 31, 2019 07:37AM)
Any update on the Steve Forte book? Is there a website that we should be keeping an eye on or a mailing list we should be joining to ensure we get a copy when it is released?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Bones (May 31, 2019 08:51AM)
[quote]On May 31, 2019, Scharin wrote:
Any update on the Steve Forte book? Is there a website that we should be keeping an eye on or a mailing list we should be joining to ensure we get a copy when it is released? [/quote]

No, no, and no.