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Topic: Wunderkind - Andreas Dante
Message: Posted by: Consultthemind1 (May 10, 2019 03:46PM)
Just had a look at this -

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/11705

It looks exactly like Peter Turnerís ďMissing in actionĒ / ďMissing noĒ from his masterclass series / Did2. Even using this to divine a playing card seems similar. Does this come with an app? If so, is there anyone that owns both of them who can tell me the benefits of this (if it is an app?) it appears to be a blatant ripoff. I personally donít like any effect where the participant adds things up (regardless of how or why- with phone/ without a phone). But this sounds no different. Thoughts?

David.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 10, 2019 04:07PM)
I donít own PT's so canít compare but I personally did not care for Wunderkind. Instructions must be followed exactly and are too complicated for me to bother with.
Not saying it canít be done, but spec will either make a mistake OR be underwhelmed by having to follow such a specific and odd process. There are so many other effects I would choose to do rather than this one.

Other performers may be able to make a miracle out of it but Iím not that good.
Message: Posted by: MadisonH (May 10, 2019 04:37PM)
This has been revealed multiple times on scam school. This isnít new in any way. Why in the world is this being released as a download, and even more so, why in the world is penguin promoting it in their newsletter!? This has been around for ages.

Wow, Iím disappointed in the team.

Madison
Message: Posted by: Consultthemind1 (May 10, 2019 04:56PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2019, MadisonH wrote:
This has been revealed multiple times on scam school. This isnít new in any way. Why in the world is this being released as a download, and even more so, why in the world is penguin promoting it in their newsletter!? This has been around for ages.

Wow, Iím disappointed in the team.

Madison [/quote]

The original principle was actually a memory feat if Iím not mistaken released by Lorayne or Bergeron. From what I gather Turner was the first to tie the principle to things like a pin code/ playing card etc. turning it into a divination system. The way this is presented here and the concepts shared Iíve been informed are the same. Also disappointed in penguin for not doing any research.

David.
Message: Posted by: cho7 (May 10, 2019 05:16PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2019, MadisonH wrote:
This has been revealed multiple times on scam school. This isnít new in any way. Why in the world is this being released as a download, and even more so, why in the world is penguin promoting it in their newsletter!? This has been around for ages. [/quote]

And why is it so expensive?

24$ (19$ currently) for an instant download on Penguin is way too much.
Message: Posted by: MadisonH (May 10, 2019 06:06PM)
Hi David,

Turner was only the first to combine it with 4 people. But the way I learned it several years ago is identical to whatís presented here except without the need to write down their numbers on your own calculator.

Madison
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (May 10, 2019 09:23PM)
I know the basic effect is old as the hills, but is there anything that sets this release apart? Wondering why Marc Salem and others would be so excited about it if it was the same old thing..?
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 10, 2019 10:31PM)
There is no mathematics involved - you don't have to work out anything - your own calculator secretly gives you the missing number. I finally got to watch the hour and a half download and now I'm ready to try it out next week

Ed
Message: Posted by: MadisonH (May 10, 2019 11:10PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2019, egoli wrote:
There is no mathematics involved - you don't have to work out anything - your own calculator secretly gives you the missing number. I finally got to watch the hour and a half download and now I'm ready to try it out next week

Ed [/quote]

Glad to hear this. So he HAS added something by not having to compute the info yourself.

Personally, I prefer the original method since it means I donít have to have my phone in play.

Madison
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (May 14, 2019 01:12AM)
This is good ****!! Great effect
Message: Posted by: gibby357 (May 17, 2019 03:40PM)
I love this! I was unaware of the roots to this effect but the calculator does everything. Not giving anything away, everything seems adjustable and user friendly. You can reveal a just though of number, do a magic square with 2 thought of numbers and even a card reveal. I do not own the Peter Turner effect but I am very impressed with the ease of use and inability to figure this out on the spectators part. And the price boarders between fair and cheap to me. You get a lot for your buck!



Leo
Message: Posted by: slowkneenuh (May 18, 2019 05:10PM)
I enjoy performing mathematical effects. However, most times participants are on edge and despite their qualifications are intimidated doing math and invariably make mistakes without a great deal of coaching. This effect couldn't be easier for the spectators to participate and it's a classic effect utilizing current day technology that most people are familiar with. A job well done by the developer! He did a thorough job covering all aspects of the app, device and performance.

My only regret is that I didn't get it when it was on sale. :)
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (May 19, 2019 03:52PM)
[quote]On May 18, 2019, slowkneenuh wrote:
...My only regret is that I didn't get it when it was on sale. :) [/quote]

As far as I can tell, it still IS on sale (unless it was available at an even lower price at some point in time).
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 19, 2019 04:37PM)
[quote]On May 19, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
[quote]On May 18, 2019, slowkneenuh wrote:
...My only regret is that I didn't get it when it was on sale. :) [/quote]

As far as I can tell, it still IS on sale (unless it was available at an even lower price at some point in time). [/quote]

When I bought it the sale price was $9.95.