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Topic: Roller Shades
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 11, 2019 10:42PM)
I'm working on a small illusion and I need a couple of small roller shades. I also need to have them black.
First what is the best source for roller shades?
Second would you suggest cutting back the shade material and sewing black felt in its place to have the blackout I need?
Any advice is helpful.
Thanks.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (May 11, 2019 10:46PM)
Lots to choose from here: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=roller+shades+for+windows+blackout&crid=23JDO0V9SG9IK
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 11, 2019 10:54PM)
Yes, too much to choose from which is why I'm asking for what works the best.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 12, 2019 10:22AM)
Roller shade traditionally were made from roller shades purchased at any store that sells them. You have to just take one end off and cut to the length you need, and put the metal end back on the shortened rod.

One end only controls the mechanism the other end you can safely remove and shorten from that end.

My advice stop looking at the Internet, and physically go shopping in stores. Then check the Internet for a solution that will work for your needs.
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (May 12, 2019 12:40PM)
Do not use felt on a roller bling as felt is not a woven material as it is made up of pressed fibers. It will eventually fall apart.
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 14, 2019 07:24PM)
Dan would you suggest velvet or a similar material? Also has anyone used the black-out shades available in the home improvement stores?
My application requires something to block light to help with the illusion.
Hopefully some illusion builders out there will give up a few secrets.
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (May 15, 2019 09:54AM)
Velvet would crush the pile of the material on a roller (pile is the fuzz on velvet) and that would not be good. Velveteen would be better.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 20, 2019 04:34AM)
[quote]On May 14, 2019, 61magic wrote:
Dan would you suggest velvet or a similar material? Also has anyone used the black-out shades available in the home improvement stores?
My application requires something to block light to help with the illusion.
Hopefully some illusion builders out there will give up a few secrets. [/quote]

Traditionally, roller blind gizmo is used for inside a box or cage. It has nothing to do with blocking light, as it is dark inside once covered. Now you are wanting to use a method of deception for a method you thought of. We cannot help you as it sounds like you do not know if you are taking the correct path or method for your intended purpose.

Nothing wrong with that, but trial and error, so some call it research, will give you your answers.
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 20, 2019 09:46AM)
Bill, what I am building is an Abbott's Frame of Life and Death. Nothing I thought of, Abbott's plans don't provide much information for materials so I thought I would reach out to Café members who are familiar
with building illusions.
Someone with illusion building knowledge may have used roller shades and have suggestions on brand and/or type with a suggested resource to purchase them.
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (May 20, 2019 08:47PM)
When I made my Frame of Life and Death years ago, I used velour for the rollers.
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 20, 2019 09:05PM)
Dan, did you sew the velour to an existing roller shade either at the end or over the top of the existing material?

Joe
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (May 21, 2019 10:15AM)
Took off the blind paper or plastic and put on the velour with staples. Velveteen will work also for these type of blinds.
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (May 21, 2019 04:24PM)
Make sure and get "Single Notch" rollers or you'll have to take apart and disable the locking mechanism which can be a real pain. For most fabrics, you'll need to overlock the edge rather than hem them due to the fabric building up thickness at the edge which will be a big problem.
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (May 21, 2019 06:28PM)
Good tip Ray!
Message: Posted by: 61magic (May 21, 2019 07:00PM)
You bet! This is the information I was looking for.

Thanks to you all.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (May 29, 2019 07:50PM)
If you can find wooden rollers, go with them. You can disable the ratchet lock by carefully hitting it with a prick punch. For the fabric, Use a broadcloth with a extra wrap around the roller.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jun 6, 2019 06:48AM)
[quote]On May 12, 2019, Dan Ford wrote:
Do not use felt on a roller bling as felt is not a woven material as it is made up of pressed fibers. It will eventually fall apart. [/quote]

Dan is right go with non woven material ( you can get it at the hardware store as weed blocker cloth). Also I like the Mayfair tear roller shades sold at WalMart they are cheap and easy to make the right size (no cutting). One other thing as you remove the shade from the roller (where the shade is glued to the roller mark a straight line on the roller).
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 7, 2019 08:48AM)
Boy, this topic really took off after I explained the lack of information. So good, the pros chimed in to solve this mystery. Thanks guys for your participation hand very helpful ideas.