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Topic: Apparently impromptu gaffed or ungaffed packet trick recommendations?
Message: Posted by: travisb (Jun 16, 2019 05:16PM)
I am very ignorant of the world of packet tricks, but I'm currently seeking recommendations for a specific need.

The restriction for my needs is that the cards should apparently come from a normal deck, and should never change into anything that could make it seem like I don't have a normal deck. So no colour changing backs, no fan displays of all jokers (though I would accept false counts to show multiples of the same card), no overt modifications to the card faces or backs like missing angels or pips collecting in a corner of the card (though covert modifications like mispipped cards for Ultimate 3 Card Monte would be okay), etc.

I tried out Jon Allen's Double Back back in the day, and ungaffed I've used Daley's Last Trick (the Bill Duncan presentation from Tubthumping) and Vernon's Twisting The Aces, but that's about it as far as packet tricks I've actually used. I'm ignorant enough of what's out there in Packet Trick Land that I don't even know exactly where to look or how to think about where to look. So any pointers would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Travis
Message: Posted by: ejohn (Jun 16, 2019 06:52PM)
Suggest “Very Good Hand” by Phil Goldstein. It’s in Mentzer’s PACKET TRICKS booklet and in his CARD CAVALCADE FOUR. Or John Bannon’s “Duplicity”. Or Peter Kane’s “Jazz Aces”, also in Mentzer’s booklet.
Message: Posted by: travisb (Jun 16, 2019 07:40PM)
Thank you, this is exactly the kind of recommendation I was hoping for! I'll see about tracking those down.

Travis
Message: Posted by: Degio (Jun 17, 2019 01:43AM)
I recommend Phil Goldseint's Masque (it's in his book Focus) and also the classic Color Monte, performed with a Joker, an Ace of Spades and I use a Queen of Hearts as a kicker.
Both tricks use regular cards, no extra cards and are fractal (i.e. at the end everything can be examined).
Message: Posted by: mlippo (Jun 18, 2019 03:01PM)
After thowing in the rubbish many packet tricks that used special cards, I am left with a very small number I actually do.

I have routined Oil & Queens (Roy Walton) followed by Modern Jazz Aces (Darwin Ortiz's handling of Peter Kane's Jazz Aces). I need to do "a little something" after the first trick, in order to be ready for the second one, of course.

Masque is also my recommendation.

As for Colour Monte, I never do it using an ordinary pack. I always take the cards from a separate envelope. This because I want to justify having two identical black cards, which I couldn't do from a pack in use. Besides I use, as climax, a blank card with "140 Euros" written on it! For me it works beautifully.

One of the most performed by me is undoubtedly Odd Quad, Daryl .... Not impromptu, since you need cards from different coloured packs, but you it's quick, visual, and you end clean. A perfect opener for me!

Mark
Message: Posted by: MGordonB (Jun 18, 2019 09:36PM)
Twins - Br John Hamman
Twisting the Aces- Vernon
Jumping Gemini -Ortiz
Jazz Aces - Ortiz
Message: Posted by: CardGuyMike (Jun 19, 2019 08:17AM)
Have fun, there are more packet tricks than you will ever be able to learn. Off the top of my head:

There are ungaffed oil and water routines (Juan Tamariz for example)
Reset and variations (Caleb Wiles' Reswindled needs a small setup, Woody Aragon's Dorset is completely impromptu)
The 8-card biddle trick (and numerous variations)
Devil's elevator (Bruce Cervon?), Harapan Ong also has an elevator effect in Principia
Follow the Leader (Lance Pierce)
In "52 Memories" Jack Parker has a bunch of packet tricks, including a fantastic trilogy that uses a double backer that is never seen
That's Not Possible, Mind Boggler - Paul Gordon
MacDonald's Aces and numerous other Ace Assemblies

Lots of resources out there in books and DVDs. Go to a magic site or lybrary.com and search for packet tricks.
Message: Posted by: travisb (Jun 19, 2019 12:22PM)
This is all super helpful, thanks everyone!

Travis
Message: Posted by: Steven Keyl (Jul 3, 2019 10:02PM)
There is a five page thread dedicated to this very topic. Skip to the end where I sum up the results.

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=371678&forum=201