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Topic: Replacement bands for Lassen Peace Dollar G. Flipper
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 15, 2019 12:11AM)
I was lucky to find a Lassen Peace dollar flipper second hand here at the Cafť after realizing that it's extremely difficult to actually buy anything from Todd himself.

The band seems fine but I want to make sure I have some if necessary. I may try the elastic replacement thing as well, but I'm still slightly afraid of the knots.

Anyway, are rubber bands for an internal groove dollar size GF 'standard' across makers? Or is each one different? Anyone know where I can get some for this one?

Also curious if anyone knows what kind of adhesive might be used on this.

Thanks
Message: Posted by: manreb (Aug 15, 2019 01:07AM)
Not sure bout the band size; but Lassen uses carpet tape not adhesive.
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 15, 2019 01:43AM)
Thank you, that's very helpful. Glad to know I won't have to be soaking it in solvent!
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Aug 15, 2019 06:33AM)
Yes double sided carpet tape works well. You can contact Todd and he will send some out or there is a posting about using elastic thread as a replacement. Not sure about sizes as they all could be designed a little differently.
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 15, 2019 04:49PM)
I have emailed him a couple times and haven't got a response. Admittedly it was about a product question, so maybe I'll try a new email with 'replacement bands' as the subject.

And, yes also strongly considering giving the elastic method a try. Still a little nervous about getting the knots right.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 15, 2019 10:08PM)
The elastic cording is the option to go. Use .4 or .5mm stretch magic elastic. Tie knot 3 times and ta-da! Also, hair braid bands work great!
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 15, 2019 10:47PM)
Thanks! I guess it's easy enough to redo if I don't get the tension perfect...

Okay I'll give it a shot.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Aug 16, 2019 12:12PM)
I agree, the elastic jewelry cord is great!
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 16, 2019 12:28PM)
Also a dab of superglue will always secure a knot
Message: Posted by: Al Desmond (Aug 16, 2019 02:29PM)
[quote]On Aug 16, 2019, Poor dini wrote:
Also a dab of superglue will always secure a knot [/quote]

Unless you are dealing with bargain basement gaffed coins, you do not want to bring super glue anywhere near your coins.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 16, 2019 03:59PM)
If you own a ngf bob specifically states a small about of superglue on the knot will secure it (at least in the triception video)
Message: Posted by: Al Desmond (Aug 16, 2019 04:24PM)
[quote]On Aug 16, 2019, Poor dini wrote:
If you own a ngf bob specifically states a small about of superglue on the knot will secure it (at least in the triception video) [/quote]

I don't care what it says in the video, I have seen numbers of expensive gaffs ruin because someone was not careful with superglue and got it on a part of a gaff where they didn't want it.

Do you think it's a good idea to secure a flipper to the host shell with super glue?

Well, there are folks who have done it, and they can barely remove the small piece.

It's my rule, I was offering it, do as you feel comfortable.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 16, 2019 04:44PM)
Wow, admittedly you seem that your rule should be universal? I too have a large collection (some workers and some are strictly collectors items) of coin gaffs from Lassen, van dukkem, Haden, Schoolcraft, Roy etc... so, needless to say, I have had my fair share of working with tiny and expensive parts of coins. if you were to watch or query into it more you would see the superglue goes no where near the actual metal or parts of the gaff minus the elastic itself. So, before you try to chastise someone for stating a suggestion directly from the guy who INVENTED the flipper, take a breath.
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 16, 2019 04:45PM)
In Inigo's repair document (posted in the 'turning a regular into a gravity flipper thread), he says also to use SG, BUT he makes it very clear to not do it anywhere near the coin and to make sure it's 100% dried before putting the elastic back in. Seems safe, no?


EDIT: Poor dini posted at the same time.
Message: Posted by: Al Desmond (Aug 16, 2019 05:02PM)
[quote]On Aug 16, 2019, Poor dini wrote:
Wow, admittedly you seem that your rule should be universal? I too have a large collection (some workers and some are strictly collectors items) of coin gaffs from Lassen, van dukkem, Haden, Schoolcraft, Roy etc... so, needless to say, I have had my fair share of working with tiny and expensive parts of coins. if you were to watch or query into it more you would see the superglue goes no where near the actual metal or parts of the gaff minus the elastic itself. So, before you try to chastise someone for stating a suggestion directly from the guy who INVENTED the flipper, take a breath. [/quote]

I said it was my rule, for me, do what you want.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 16, 2019 05:47PM)
@last laugh...Iíve never had an issue and just treat your coins with love and care...usually when treated right no issues arise
Message: Posted by: Mobius303 (Aug 17, 2019 06:30AM)
You can get the elastic thread already knotted for both Silver dollar size and half dollar size from Schoolcraft. it is $10 for 2 of them and will save you the headache of trying to tie it.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 17, 2019 09:07AM)
Yes, Jamie has a very specific size of thread he uses for his also (itís thinner than most stretch magic that I have found)
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 17, 2019 01:53PM)
[quote]On Aug 17, 2019, Mobius303 wrote:
You can get the elastic thread already knotted for both Silver dollar size and half dollar size from Schoolcraft. it is $10 for 2 of them and will save you the headache of trying to tie it. [/quote]


Will the ones knotted from him fit my Lassen coin? I hear that they dislike each other, not sure if I should mention it, lol...
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 17, 2019 03:23PM)
I think that if you order from Jamie, he would be more open to receiving that question. Lassen not so much ha. Jamie is known to have a bit more professional customer service
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 17, 2019 03:25PM)
Then again I know inigo has Lassen and Schoolcraft flippers and he would be the best source to ask if the inner dimensions are similar
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 17, 2019 07:50PM)
Awesome, I'll ask him.

I did just order a walking liberty g. flipper from Jamie and it hasn't shipped yet (fingers crossed that it doesn't take all that long), so if they're the same I can probably still add on some elastic.

Thanks for all the great help here!
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 17, 2019 08:32PM)
Absolutely! Jamieís come stock now with the elastic cording and not rubber bands anymore
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 17, 2019 09:32PM)
That's good to know, seems like if you're going to pay top dollar for a gaff, it should be made with the best possible materials, right?

I PMd Inigo. Hopefully he knows if my Lassen dollar will take a Schoolcraft elastic...
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 29, 2019 11:10AM)
I went ahead and and replaced it myself with the stretch magic. Wasn't too hard at all! Works great now.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 29, 2019 03:41PM)
[quote]On Aug 29, 2019, Last Laugh wrote:
I went ahead and and replaced it myself with the stretch magic. Wasn't too hard at all! Works great now. [/quote]

Did you use 0.5 thickness? Or larger?
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 29, 2019 07:01PM)
I used .5

Seems to be working great so far.