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Topic: Would this offend anyone?
Message: Posted by: mndude (Oct 31, 2019 10:29PM)
I will be performing at a Fireman's ball.

So I'm wondering if it would be ok to do effects with fire, or if that would might offend some of the firefighters.
Message: Posted by: Cardestroy (Nov 1, 2019 07:35AM)
It depends - I am from middle Europe and I do believe that here it will be okay for them. Unless you choose very unhappy way to deliver the tricks, like claiming that you can control the fire, that could actually offend some of them since their work is trying to controlling the flames and they know how incredible hard it is and that they are risking their life for that.
You can easily move them on your side by one or two clever sentences where you will appreciate their work and you will not disregard their work by claiming that manipulation with fire is easy to do.
In my country I would even build the whole show story around firemen and I do believe it will be well appreciated.
You can start by claiming that in a years you learned the power of the fire - like physically destructive force and also like an important element in magic. You can claim, that you know some powerful spells containing the fire but you always respected its power so you actually never practiced them. But tonight, with crowd full of trained profesionals you would like - with their kind permission - try some of this magic.
Message: Posted by: mndude (Nov 1, 2019 12:33PM)
Well, last year I did a show for NAACP, and I built my entire show around black culture (playing hip hop music, black colored props, etc.) And that did NOT go over well.

So now I'm extra paranoid about these things.
Message: Posted by: Tim Snyder (Nov 2, 2019 07:27PM)
[quote]On Nov 1, 2019, mndude wrote:
Well, last year I did a show for NAACP, and I built my entire show around black culture (playing hip hop music, black colored props, etc.) [/quote]

:( Wow!?!?!

Are you trolling us? It just seems odd that you would make this unusual post, after posting in another area about going back in time. Most professionals would know that the people you need to ask about using fire are the person who hired you and the venue you will be performing in.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Nov 15, 2019 04:05PM)
[quote]On Nov 1, 2019, mndude wrote:
Well, last year I did a show for NAACP, and I built my entire show around black culture (playing hip hop music, black colored props, etc.) And that did NOT go over well.

So now I'm extra paranoid about these things. [/quote]

I think you answered your own rather dumb question!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Woolery (Nov 17, 2019 01:39PM)
Any time you take small, stereotyped aspects of someone else’s culture, especially when that culture represents a historically oppressed and marginalized people, you run the very real risk of looking like you are just typecasting and patronizing your employers. Not good.

Advice: if you were booked to perform your act, don’t start thinking you are clever by “customizing” the show for an audience. If they ask you to put in particular references, then consider doing so. Otherwise, do the show you spent years building and polishing. They want your best material.

If you are taking gigs before you have a show, you might want to rethink your approach. Would you be happy going to a concert if the performer hadn’t actually practiced the music? Why think magic is different from other performing arts?

Patrick
Message: Posted by: walidosama (Dec 6, 2019 04:00AM)
It looks like the best way to perform magic for firefighters good luck in that gig
Message: Posted by: TomB (Dec 7, 2019 06:34AM)
The original post was over a month ago. Did you do the show? Did you pull permits? Was it successful? Did it go down in a blaze of glory?
Message: Posted by: djsqzme (Jan 15, 2020 04:03PM)
I don't think firemen would like anyone to be playing with fire... but yes, how did your show go? lol
Message: Posted by: dbaltes1520 (Dec 8, 2020 10:13AM)
Would like to know too, how the show went. I plan on a few shows for the local fire and police departments - to help them raise funds for kids. Police was easy with an humorous escape routine, but the fire show was something I needed to research a bit more - although the self-lighting candles and lighter tricks could work okay. Let us know how it went and what you did.