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Topic: Audience member cutting illusion
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Nov 13, 2019 03:48PM)
How do you guys think this would play in terms of the kid volunteering knowing how it was done?

http://www.sliceofmagic.com/

Thanks.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Lou Hilario (Nov 13, 2019 05:47PM)
I guess you just need to get a silent kid who won't tell. Or assign a kid before showtime. That is what I do sometimes for my levitation act with the birthday child or someone who will fit in my table.
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Nov 13, 2019 09:17PM)
Lou, I don't have that illusion but they bill it for an audience kid member to do, and, I would think it would be pretty clear the kid. Do you think they would realize it for sure? Or maybe, being kids, they wouldn't be sure?

Jim
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Nov 13, 2019 09:47PM)
I don't know, but the ad reads

"the child has no real idea how the Illusion is performed."

And in this thread the creator addresses your question (isn't the search feature AMAZING?)
https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=636992&forum=17
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Nov 14, 2019 04:36PM)
I still want one. If someone wants to sell theirs I would be interested.
Message: Posted by: Mike Thornton (Nov 14, 2019 08:30PM)
I have intimate knowledge of this illusion, the participant will not know what is going on and does not need to be rehearsed ahead of time. This is a really clever illusion from Chris Murphy, the way it packs, the way it's built. Highly recommended!
Message: Posted by: David_N (Nov 16, 2019 10:50AM)
The illusion looks amazing in the publicity. I used to have an old Jack Hughes 'Ultimate Divide', which is an identical effect and always got a good round of applause. The table was a nightmare to put together though with a lot of small bolts and wing nuts; took forever to set up. It's a pity Chris doesn't make a full size version. There are various plans out there but they all seem to work on an optical principle which means they are very angle sensitive.
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 18, 2019 11:43AM)
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNTyW3NX_yc&t
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Nov 18, 2019 01:52PM)
[quote]On Nov 18, 2019, KreyMagic wrote:
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNTyW3NX_yc&t [/quote]
What's your point? We're not even talking about this rip-off
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 19, 2019 04:31AM)
[quote]On Nov 18, 2019, the Sponge wrote:
[quote]On Nov 18, 2019, KreyMagic wrote:
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNTyW3NX_yc&t [/quote]
What's your point? We're not even talking about this rip-off [/quote]
This was developed by a French master and bought in France 9 years ago. It 's not stolen and not rip-off!!!
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Nov 19, 2019 08:12AM)
Right. Completely original. https://celebrity.fandom.com/wiki/Audience_Dismember

Anyway, back to what this post is actually about.
Message: Posted by: Mike Thornton (Nov 19, 2019 12:59PM)
Perhaps the Sponge does not notice the difference in illusions, different method.
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 19, 2019 02:07PM)
These are completely two different methods and two different designs! I know what I 'm talking about! I only support the original supports! These two pillars have different authors, different methods and different design! There are no violations here. I don 't like people not figuring out deeply in illusion but just talking badly.
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Nov 19, 2019 09:10PM)
I believe the Russian performance is the exact same method, a dec***tive b**e. But exploited in a different way. I believe this one is from china magic.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Nov 20, 2019 05:19AM)
[quote]On Nov 19, 2019, JamesinLA wrote:
I believe the Russian performance is the exact same method, a dec***tive b**e. But exploited in a different way. I believe this one is from china magic. [/quote]


James, that sounds like you are trying to talk yourself out of the illusion. Personally, I think this is a great illusion for the local magician that wants to put an illusion in his show. It is compact, and looks great all the way though the performance. It will go over great in an audience of kids. The kids will go nuts over someone they know being sliced in half.

It is very deceptive, and will go over with audiences. Of course not magicians, as they know many of the principles involved, but they will be jealous that they did not find it first.

I once did my Abbott Chair Suspension for all the kids in a small town event. The auditorium was filled, and all the kids started talking, standing and stretching their necks to see the whole illusion. They were excited and could not believe their eyes.

Instead of laying the little girl spectator on the board, I had her sit on it, and positioned here in pose with one harm raised, and the other supporting herself by putting her hand on the board. It was sort of a model pose. When I passed the hoop over the board and girl, they even got more excited. The could not believe their eyes.

Don't underestimate the power of a good deceptive illusion.

If you are doing a lot of stage shows, I would invest in this one for sure. I think you will be surprised at the reaction it will bring to your audiences.

I am guessing that the kids or the spectator will know what is going on, unless you tell them. She is just getting into a box as far as she knows.
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 20, 2019 12:20PM)
[quote]On Nov 19, 2019, JamesinLA wrote:
I believe the Russian performance is the exact same method, a dec***tive b**e. But exploited in a different way. I believe this one is from china magic. [/quote]
This trick (design and method) was developed by a French magician 15 years ago. 2 years ago, it began to be copied by the Chinese!
Message: Posted by: Sorcerer (Nov 21, 2019 08:53AM)
[quote]On Nov 19, 2019, the Sponge wrote:
Right. Completely original. https://celebrity.fandom.com/wiki/Audience_Dismember

Anyway, back to what this post is actually about. [/quote]
The Sponge, the illusion Alex Krey is performing is this one, created by Vostinic Veroljub https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgJncpj4JRw [youtube]kgJncpj4JRw[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 21, 2019 09:18AM)
Exactly! This is created by Vostinic Veroljub! That one bought from him! But the option with hands, it 's May personal high!
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Nov 22, 2019 12:31AM)
How much was that Krey?
Message: Posted by: KreyMagic (Nov 22, 2019 02:02AM)
[quote]On Nov 22, 2019, Bairefoot wrote:
How much was that Krey? [/quote]
I don 't remember exactly, it seems 1700-2000 euros.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Nov 22, 2019 11:12PM)
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Chris Murphy (Nov 22, 2019 11:17PM)
Thanks for the chat on Slice of Magic, I'm the builder. Sorry for the slow chime-in, have been recovering from a workshop accident. Happy to address questions. My friend Peter May, who came up with the concept that you can use an unrehearsed child, has been using it for well over 25 years and it's not his experience that the child knows what's going on. The kid is in a box and can't actually see what's happening during the performance as the box blocks his / her view. The reason it works and is practical is because it's for a kid and this is why I've not produced an upsized version for an adult.