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Topic: Csb routining
Message: Posted by: Jxb1989 (Feb 5, 2020 10:20PM)
So, I have catch up, bob sheets, csb dvd, atomic coin and gathered as much material as possible to mix up and create a personal csb routine. Here is the question I pose... do you prefer to use the gaff during transpos to show two coins and make one...or show one coin turns to two?
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Feb 6, 2020 12:27AM)
Both !!! :)
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 7, 2020 10:10PM)
Agree with David. Or... one coin changes to a different coin, and one changes to a ring! See Nate Kranzo's No Moves CSB routine here: https://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/pages/no-moves-copper-silver-brass

Jim
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Feb 7, 2020 11:50PM)
Hi Jxb , I have had a similar problem. Choosing the right things to make my own routine.
But I am doing it with a flipp r, so I can learn some things from that.
Watch some of the things that you like the most. LIke the most amazing moves or CSB parts of other's routines. Try some of these things out individually, then put a few together to make your own routine. With the CSB you of course you normally have to plan a good switch at the end. EVen here, see what others suggest, and use the one you like the most.
I am truly trying to help you, and myself at the same time. Cheers.
Message: Posted by: magikmax (Feb 10, 2020 05:28AM)
Have a look at Insidious by Michael Scanzello. It's a different take on the CBS plot, using a normal coin, a dark coin and a key. Sorry doesn't answer the OP's question directly, however it adds a bit of different thinking to the mix. To answer the question, I would also say both. More variety and less repetition.
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Feb 10, 2020 02:59PM)
You can also adapt your C/S/B set into a 1 Silver/2 Copper routine like Roger Klause's "Operator Coin". I have used both a C/S/B and a 1 Silver/2 Copper set with this routine. Got pretty much the same reaction from both.
https://www.mymagic.com/l/money-magic/operator-coin-routine-roger-klause
Message: Posted by: Stephon Johnson (Feb 13, 2020 01:58PM)
Paul Greenís 2C1S routine (In the Trenches DVD) is excellent ending Clean with going to pockets.
Similarly, Dan Fleshman slightly tweaked that routine to use CSB, and you can find it on his newest DVD.
Both transport 1Silver into 2C or Brass/Copper.

Worthwhile and Workers!
Steph
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Feb 13, 2020 02:37PM)
Hay Guys I have a tabled Routine With NO pocket work In my Denver Notes ! P.M. me for More info ! :)
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (Feb 13, 2020 11:11PM)
Hereís a simple CSB routine in THE REAL WORLD! Yes, a spectator recorded me at a working gig! Sorry, itís really simple so no fancy magicians moves here! Reactions are priceless!

No pocket work either, just uses Quiver Purse

https://youtu.be/iCUFE3k6bAw
Message: Posted by: Michael Rubinstein (May 17, 2020 08:10AM)
In my new book Rubinstein Coin Magic, there are several routines using ungimmicked Copper, Silver, and Brass (Chinese) coins.
Message: Posted by: griz326 (May 23, 2020 12:45PM)
I just watched a lecture by Luis Piedrahita. One of the effects was his CSB routine. His handling of the gaff is the best that I've seen yet. I'll need a translator to see if I actually like his patter, but what he does with the gaff is really special. It appears to be a standard, dollar-sized, high-quality CSB set.
Message: Posted by: Stephon Johnson (May 23, 2020 02:01PM)
Griz, a bit of a tangent, but you mentioned not being able to understand the dialog on the video.
This is why BOOKS were and are great. You get the mechanics and the concept, but YOU had to fill in a huge ingredients: Your imagination and personality!
I actually prefer initial viewings of coin routine videos MUTED for a couple reasons:

1- Avoiding Annoying soundtracks (am I right?)
2- If I understand and enjoy it SILENT, I keep studying it!
3- I want MY mind to write the story free of the influence of supplied patter.
4- If I like it silent, but a story does NOT come to me: Does it NEED words? Hmmm!
5- If I think it needs a story, THEN I will listen to it...for ideas.
6- My ritual leads me to a routine that is ME, or wisely move on...

Blessings!
Steph
Message: Posted by: griz326 (May 24, 2020 12:28AM)
I take your point, Steph. All of the magic that I've ever done was learned from books.

In the case of Piedrahita, he talks fast and misdirects his audience in the process; I don't think that he's telling tall tales but he's blowing plenty of smoke. I'd like to know what sort of smoke he's blowing ;)

In the process of showing the coins to be real, he ditches the copper and brass and brings in the gaff in plain sight.

He "tosses" the gaff to open it. That free handling takes all of the heat off of it.

There's a lot to learn from him, but there is no way to copy him.
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (May 24, 2020 12:24PM)
Is there a link to view/buy this lecture?

[quote]On May 23, 2020, griz326 wrote:
I just watched a lecture by Luis Piedrahita. One of the effects was his CSB routine. His handling of the gaff is the best that I've seen yet. I'll need a translator to see if I actually like his patter, but what he does with the gaff is really special. It appears to be a standard, dollar-sized, high-quality CSB set. [/quote]
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (May 24, 2020 09:28PM)
[quote]On May 24, 2020, inigmntoya wrote:
Is there a link to view/buy this lecture?

[quote]On May 23, 2020, griz326 wrote:
I just watched a lecture by Luis Piedrahita. One of the effects was his CSB routine. His handling of the gaff is the best that I've seen yet. I'll need a translator to see if I actually like his patter, but what he does with the gaff is really special. It appears to be a standard, dollar-sized, high-quality CSB set. [/quote] [/quote]

Is this the one?

https://gkaps.com/store/p/3-coin-magic-routine-111.html
Message: Posted by: griz326 (May 25, 2020 12:07AM)
Yes, that is the link.