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Topic: Dropped Call by Ellusionist
Message: Posted by: Ross W (Nov 11, 2020 02:08PM)
Https://ellusionist.com/products/dropped-call?mc_cid=62fad99216&mc_eid=16c58b05b3

Erm...am I missing something? Is it just me?
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (Nov 11, 2020 02:15PM)
I wouldn't know as I no longer go to their site.
Message: Posted by: JustJoshinMagic (Nov 11, 2020 02:17PM)
Disclaimer I am 100% biased when it comes to this. Kyle is a close friend of mine, I received the second of these he ever made, and I helped name the effect. That being said he didn't ask me to comment or post about this.

Dropped Call is an amazing vanish of an iPhone. Here is a performance of me doing it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BujQ6nlhfyQ/
Here is a performance of Kyle doing it on his instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/B-fCq19HrZp/

The gimmick is very clever and well made. There aren't any clothing requirements and the angles are great. Kyle and Zach have put a lot of thought into this project, and I can easily see this being the trick of 2020. The video posted today was just a teaser for the pre-order, with a raw performance clip. An actual trailer is coming
Message: Posted by: Ross W (Nov 11, 2020 02:24PM)
Ah well: it's pretty clear what you're getting here. If that's your thing and it works for you then good luck with it - truly. Times are hard enough for everyone at the moment without me sniping from the sidelines.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Nov 11, 2020 02:31PM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2020, Ross W wrote:
Https://ellusionist.com/products/dropped-call?mc_cid=62fad99216&mc_eid=16c58b05b3

Erm...am I missing something? Is it just me? [/quote]


No Ross is not just you. Didn't look very impressive to me either. I think without showing the front of the phone before the vanish really weakens the effect, IMO. After watching the LED light and apple circle vanish it just seems like they would slide in and out between the casing. I'm sure others may have a different opinion which is totally fine and expected since every trick isn't for everybody.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Nov 11, 2020 02:31PM)
Optix looks better.

It looks like you are doing what you are doing iím afraid.
Pass from me but good luck with it.
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (Nov 11, 2020 02:35PM)
Ellusionist... weren't they the guys that recently blocked their complete library and shut out all their customers without any warning? So that everybody here was worried they were bankrupt and every customer had lost every video they purchased over the years? And then it turned out to be a publicity stunt because they wanted to draw attention to the fact that they changed the background color of their website (or something incredibly stupid like that)?
Message: Posted by: Joe Roberts (Nov 11, 2020 02:51PM)
It seems like you could just do this with an empty phone case and a D'lite.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Nov 11, 2020 02:53PM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2020, Joe Roberts wrote:
It seems like you could just do this with an empty phone case and a D'lite. [/quote]

Exactly
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Nov 11, 2020 04:23PM)
I can hear a barrel being scraped.
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Nov 11, 2020 07:01PM)
I agree Dlite & an empty phone case ! as for the Apple design Pk ring with a Apple logo S**M !
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Nov 12, 2020 01:20AM)
I thought it was a Dílite and an empty phone case. 🤔
Message: Posted by: tomdeg (Nov 12, 2020 06:32AM)
Pre-ordered... I see the possibilities...
Message: Posted by: AutarchicFlux (Nov 12, 2020 06:51AM)
I knew what was going to happen as soon as that terrible looking case and immediately obviously fake light turned on. Nothing looks right.
Message: Posted by: trickyat86 (Nov 24, 2020 07:33AM)
Found this youtube video of a guy talking about an advanced copy he received. May just be an issue with his unit, but spoilers it broke already.

https://youtu.be/crfj5hkh8iE
Message: Posted by: tomdeg (Nov 24, 2020 07:36AM)
Got mine... in the drawer.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Nov 24, 2020 11:40AM)
[quote]On Nov 24, 2020, tomdeg wrote:
Got mine... in the drawer. [/quote]

To the point. 🤣🤣🤣
Message: Posted by: psychod (Nov 24, 2020 07:27PM)
As I watched the demo, I found that I was waiting for something and then I realized that the effect was over! Maybe some people will be able to do something special with this but this just does not interest me at all!

Dave
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Nov 24, 2020 09:23PM)
[quote]On Nov 25, 2020, psychod wrote:
As I watched the demo, I found that I was waiting for something and then I realized that the effect was over! Maybe some people will be able to do something special with this but this just does not interest me at all!

Dave [/quote]

Sure you can do something special with this. DONíT ORDER IT.
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (Nov 25, 2020 01:42PM)
LOL
Message: Posted by: ArtIn (Nov 25, 2020 05:36PM)
The case looks very odd.
Optix not only provide a stronger vanish but also routine and impact.
Message: Posted by: SlightlyTipsyMagic (Nov 29, 2020 06:49PM)
I got one of these. Before I even got a chance to open it up and put it in the works, I got an email from Ellusionist of a *recall due to a problem with the charging unit*
Message: Posted by: mpilkey (Nov 29, 2020 07:43PM)
Ok, so I got to chime in here.

Kyle created this like 5 years ago. I saw the several prototypes. Seeing it on video doesnít do it justice. It looks so good in person. I prefer this to optic to be honest. This has been in the works with E for well over a year now. Itís not kyles fault that E did this whole stunt. Itís not like it happened, and the next day he emailed them and said ďrelease thisĒ. The whole charging issue isnít Kyles doing, and shouldnít reflect on him or the effect in anyway. Itís 100% Ellusionists fault. However, in the Facebook group, there is a fix that will allow the unit to charge with the current charger. This is a solution while customers await the replacement. Yes, thatís right! They are going to be replaced. So keep that in mind.

To say itís just a ďDliteĒ is quite frankly, typical Cafť magicians doing what they do best. Complaining on the Cafť while not going out and actually performing.
Message: Posted by: codydavismagic (Nov 29, 2020 08:48PM)
Any clue when they'll be in stock?
Message: Posted by: SlightlyTipsyMagic (Dec 1, 2020 10:42AM)
Wow! Ellusionist did me a solid this morning.They refunded my account for the total amount and told me not to even bother returning Dropped Call to them.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Dec 1, 2020 11:03AM)
[quote]On Dec 1, 2020, SlightlyTipsyMagic wrote:
Wow! Ellusionist did me a solid this morning.They refunded my account for the total amount and told me not to even bother returning Dropped Call to them. [/quote]

Because they know for sure that youíll never be able to sell it on.
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (Dec 1, 2020 01:34PM)
:rotf:
Message: Posted by: Magikgym (Jan 22, 2021 10:08PM)
Apparently there was a problem with the charger or charging. That's been fixed and in stock again. Anyone have it that can give a review. Thinking about getting it.
Message: Posted by: magic_tony (Jan 23, 2021 03:10AM)
As someone else mentioned, does this come with routine in which the front of the phone is seen first?

But this of course would need you to have a phone that fits the case, or a similar looking case that fits your phone.
Message: Posted by: coachawsm (Jan 24, 2021 09:19AM)
So I got this and would like to offer some answers, without giving anything away of course. First of all, I am not a fan of Ellusionist anymore, as their marketing goes definitely the wrong way. The advertising itsef has turned into pure clickbait or is often misleading and most of the latest products have a lot of issues, just as the "button" at the first Optix batch (that's been fixed only later) and now also with the first batch of this one.

So I was really planning not to buy anything there anymore. But I really really had to get this one, after seeing a lot of positive comments. I wanted 1 modern every day carry that was somehow cellphone related.

- It comes with 2 vanishes. 1 very very easy and in my opinion it is the better one.
- It comes with the main "routine" and a few additional routines and ideas. Most of them definitely work in the real world.
- It does not come with a routine showing the front, but why is that necessary? The customer sees the back with the logo and the light, who would suspect anything else than a real phone here? If you really think that is necessary, then pretend to press a few buttons first or leave it on the table for a while... or pretend to finish a call or whatever... no one will ever suspect it is anything else than phone.
- In my opinion the case does not look odd. I mean there are people using all kinds of material - I have seen gold, pelt and whatever, so why would this look odd? But they also show you how to use another case, if needed. Though obviously it is not gonna work with every case.
- In my opinion Optix has a better "WTF" moment, as the phone disappears while holding it. Here you have some kind of delayed vanish, which I also really really like.
- The only negative thing is, that the "thing" you have to ditch is a bit bulky. But honestly - all focus should be on the case anyway.

In my opinino this is an 8/10.
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jan 24, 2021 10:01AM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2020, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Ellusionist... weren't they the guys that recently blocked their complete library and shut out all their customers without any warning? So that everybody here was worried they were bankrupt and every customer had lost every video they purchased over the years? And then it turned out to be a publicity stunt because they wanted to draw attention to the fact that they changed the background color of their website (or something incredibly stupid like that)? [/quote]

Yes thatís them but all is forgotten now that they have a new tick on the market

At the bargain price of just $40!
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Feb 16, 2021 02:32AM)
Well even though I said I may able to put this together in one of my post above forget it ! After seeing the wizard product review & the demo video I really liked
the coin vanish then the phone vanishes ! Just ordered great to use as a magic wand for vanishes "But Wait Now The phone Is Gone "
Message: Posted by: Marvelous (Feb 16, 2021 08:26PM)
Can someone who purchased it tell me do the instructions show up in your streaming library and is there an option to download?

I bought Lloyd Barnes Gaff System from Ellusionist and you have to go to another site to view the instructions and no option to download them..
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Feb 17, 2021 04:08AM)
I ordered this and should have it soon. I did not receive any download on my library.
Message: Posted by: Marvelous (Feb 17, 2021 04:34AM)
[quote]On Feb 17, 2021, MR Effecto wrote:
I ordered this and should have it soon. I did not receive any download on my library. [/quote]

Thanks. I was afraid of that. How hard would it be to add it to our streaming library?

After they went dark and came back most of my streaming access was returned but a few of the items I purchased from them that didnít they just sent me a link to view them when I asked to have them returned to my streaming library.

Really disappointed but expected,
Message: Posted by: Magikgym (Feb 17, 2021 08:11AM)
You receive a link to the tutorial which is printed on the box you receive containing the gimmick.
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Feb 18, 2021 11:38PM)
Thanks Magikgym mine should be here soon !
Message: Posted by: Harry Patter (Feb 19, 2021 03:37AM)
Is the beginning of the trick, where the phone is shown edited out of the trailer? or is this a trick where a phone the spectator never sees vanishes?
Message: Posted by: Magikgym (Feb 19, 2021 07:14AM)
Spectator sees the back which appears to look like a phone in a phone case with logo and flashlight. I've seen many people in public on their phones and many times not seeing the face of their phone. Just like what was mentioned in an earlier post, you can pretend to be pushing buttons or swiping up down or across to give the impression you are using your phone before going into the trick.
Message: Posted by: Harry Patter (Feb 19, 2021 08:13AM)
[quote]On Feb 19, 2021, Magikgym wrote:
Spectator sees the back which appears to look like a phone in a phone case with logo and flashlight. I've seen many people in public on their phones and many times not seeing the face of their phone. Just like what was mentioned in an earlier post, you can pretend to be pushing buttons or swiping up down or across to give the impression you are using your phone before going into the trick. [/quote]

Yep, but if someone removed the phone from their ear and showed me an empty case I would think they were pretending to have a phone, not that it vanished.
Message: Posted by: Magikgym (Feb 19, 2021 10:22AM)
You're not putting the phone to your ear... although you could. You are just miming by pretending to tap or swipe to get to your flashlight app before going into the effect. It really doesn't look like an empty case because you see the flashlight and the logo through the openings of the case. It definitely is a fooler and I doubt anyone questions not seeing the face of the phone. This is a winner in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Feb 19, 2021 07:58PM)
Love this effect. Love the card to phone.
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Feb 23, 2021 02:35AM)
It's Great been playing around with it all night very well made gimmick !
Message: Posted by: Harry Patter (Feb 23, 2021 03:53AM)
[quote]On Feb 19, 2021, Magikgym wrote:
You're not putting the phone to your ear... although you could. You are just miming by pretending to tap or swipe to get to your flashlight app before going into the effect. It really doesn't look like an empty case because you see the flashlight and the logo through the openings of the case. It definitely is a fooler and I doubt anyone questions not seeing the face of the phone. This is a winner in my opinion. [/quote]

So why after the 'vanish' turn the case round to show it empty?