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Topic: Remembering Lines.
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Jun 24, 2004 03:03PM)
I just had someone make me up a good script. and now need to memorize it any certain way to do so. Don,
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Jun 24, 2004 03:13PM)
Just keep rehearsing it until you can do it without looking at the script.

Then rehearse it a whole lot more.

-Jim
Message: Posted by: prettylady1990 (Jun 24, 2004 08:14PM)
The Donster
all you have to do is keep going over and over it util you know the lines like the back of your hand

Good luck!!!
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jul 1, 2004 11:57PM)
I once had an entirely new, rather lenghty show to do and a very short period of time to prepare for it. In the meantime, I had a lot of traveling to do so I couldn't rehearse in my "normal" way. I used a different approach and it worked really well. After I had written the script, I tape recorded it word for word just like I wanted to perform it on stage. I listened to it trough headphones and rehearsed by saying the lines silently along with the tape. When I was out of the public domain, I just spoke aloud with the tape. I still use this method sometimes, especially when time is limited and/or I'm going to be away from home.

Hope this helps,

Regan
Message: Posted by: Richard Allen (Jul 2, 2004 01:04AM)
All of your lines should have a purpose in your routines. If you know their purpose and understand it, it's a lot easier to remember your lines.

Don't get me wrong, it will still take work... but if you know that something needs to be said because it will add to the effect/deception, you'll be more likely to remember it and deliver it effectively(because you know it counts!). On the other hand, filler material sounds just like filler material to your audiences, so you need to put more work into any that you may have(hopefully not much!).
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jul 2, 2004 03:30AM)
Read it once a day or every other day. Don't try to memorize it but just read it over and over and over.

Jim
Message: Posted by: kOnO (Jul 29, 2004 09:43AM)
I try not to memorize a script “word for word”. I like to have an outline to follow and work from that.
This allows me to improvise if needed and makes the act seem more natural.

kOnO
Message: Posted by: Mike Wild (Jul 29, 2004 12:35PM)
A "script", for me, is a rough outline of premise and direction that I want the set / show to reflect and head toward, not something I would try to or want to memorize. Life moves at "78 speed" sometimes, and sometimes it's barely at "33 speed".

Now there's an obscure reference for you youngins... Not very obscure for many of us though, huh? ;)

Memorize scripts... That's a good one! :hysteric:

Best,

Mike
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Jul 29, 2004 01:26PM)
<rant>

A well written script that is memorized word for word does not inhibit necessary improvisation. Nor does it sound unnatural. The whole point of acting is "being in the moment" -- reacting to the world around you, whether it be the real world or the imaginary world of the show. Knowing the lines word for word not only gives you the best possible phrasing for what you want to say, but it also frees your mind [i]so that you can improvise[/i] when necessary. With a memorized script, you know what you're going to say and when. You know the timing of your routine. You have something to fall back on when you don't come up with that clever remark. You don't have to think about what you're saying, so you can focus on building a relationship with your audience. There is absolutely no benefit to improvising rather than memorizing, and so much to gain by doing the memorization.

Memorize, people, memorize!

ARRGH!

</rant>

-Jim
Message: Posted by: Mike Wild (Jul 29, 2004 01:52PM)
Well Put!

I'll bet you (Jim) just came up with that rant right off the top of your head didn't you? Not memorized or rehearsed... was it? :)

Best,

Mike
Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (Jul 29, 2004 02:05PM)
I may be stoned for this, but I don't use a script. I don't like being isolated to a set in stone script. All audiences are different and as performers, we must READ our audience and work around them.

Sure, I have a few joke lines set in my routines, but if it is the wrong audience, I will take them out and use something else. It isn't necessarily improvisation, but close.
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Jul 29, 2004 02:08PM)
Yes, and I went back and edited it. Twice. I'd probably edit it some more if I was going to present it as a speech before a paying audience. But, you don't get do overs in front of an audience. You can't say, "Sorry, that wasn't how I wanted to say that...let's start over."

You need to make your best impact the first time.

Improvisation has a place. It's good when first developing a routine. Your script obviously has to come from somewhere. But any writer will tell you that your first draft is never your last. And that's essentially when you're doing when you improvise in front of an audience -- you're giving them a rough draft.

You simply can't get the same impact from a routine that is memorized word for word and presented well that you can when you improvise your patter and present it well. Memorized scripts simply take things to a new level.

I can just imagine a troupe of actors doing Romeo and Juliet on Broadway and saying "Well...we all know the general idea of the show. Let's just make it up as we go along."

-Jim
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Jul 29, 2004 02:09PM)
[quote]
On 2004-07-29 15:05, Astinus wrote:
All audiences are different and as performers, we must READ our audience and work around them. [/quote]

Psst...you can do that with a script as well.

-Jim
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Jul 29, 2004 02:13PM)
[quote]
On 2004-07-29 14:52, WildStone wrote:
I'll bet you (Jim) just came up with that rant right off the top of your head didn't you? Not memorized or rehearsed... was it? :)[/quote]

Going back to this (since I can't edit my original post...), I should also point out that I sat here for a few moments while thinking about what I wanted to say. I paused a few times to reread what I wrote and to think about what I was going to say next.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN A SHOW!

The end.

-Jim
Message: Posted by: Mike Wild (Jul 29, 2004 03:00PM)
I'm just not sure I'd try to say one way is better than another way... or is the "right" way. I don't memorize, and simply put that works very well for me. I'd consider anyone trying to tell me that "my way" is wrong, a way I've worked out and worked on for years, to be incorrect in their assessment. It's not wrong... for me.

Perhaps some people are better off with memorized scripts, perhaps not. Perhaps the performance venue (bar vs. stage or street) makes a difference.

I'd be the last one in line to say either way is wrong, or to try to impose my way on anyone else.

Best,
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Jul 29, 2004 03:38PM)
Evreyone has their own way to learn/do things whatever works best for someone do it.
Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (Jul 30, 2004 10:33AM)
Well said Donster. Some people need the script...some don't.
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Jul 30, 2004 01:05PM)
Someone was nice enough to help me out because I wasn't to sure what to say but gave the person a idea of what I wanted to say he came up with two excellent scripts for me sine the person took their time to do it I can at least memorize it.
Message: Posted by: Mike Wild (Jul 30, 2004 01:29PM)
NO! No memorization... ever! :)

Just kidding Donster... couldn't resist, sorry man.

I'm open to new things, so I'm going to write up a script and memorize it to use at the coffee haus next week. I do quicky 10 minutes sets there every now and then (it's my break for the bar, and my experiment with table hopping all rolled into one). I'll see how that goes, compare it to a typical gig, and perhaps I'll have a subject for the "Food for Thought" section after that.

Best,

Mike
Message: Posted by: JohnDoh (Aug 28, 2004 04:46PM)
Memorize lines as you do the routine, so you associate certain words with certain actions. Not as formal as a true runthrough, but it'll help avoid mid-effect memory loss.
Message: Posted by: prettylady1990 (Aug 28, 2004 11:52PM)
Donster, your completely right
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Aug 29, 2004 10:56AM)
Prettylady1990 Thank You the scripts I have to memorize. are for Metamorphosis and a BackPack Escape both are Very Well Written. and if I went the way with the way I wrote it the English would of been Terrible in it and My Script needed to Be Edited and was.
Message: Posted by: magicduro (Aug 29, 2004 09:25PM)
I suppose that some of the most important lines are the ones that are used as misdirection so make sure you don't mess up this part. As for total memorization, sure it's okay. However, human interation and random actions are part of magic too and you should be ready to capitalize on these moments by living in the moment.