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Topic: Rubinstein's coin videos
Message: Posted by: jbmagic12250 (Jun 29, 2004 04:32PM)
I borrowed my friend's three coin videos by Michael Rubinstein. I believe it's [i]The Encyclopedia of Coins[/i] or something to that effect. I'm blown away at how many different coin moves he does and how well he does them. I'm spending a lot of time trying to get the classic palm down before I even move to any other moves but I was wondering how long it takes someone to accomplish what he does. It's truly amazing.
Message: Posted by: sethb (Jun 29, 2004 06:53PM)
Well, as David Roth says, "If it was easy, everyone could do it." No question it will take some time to get your hand muscles and fingers to do your bidding. But it will be time well spent.

My only suggestion is that in addition to working on your classic palm, also learn one or two other sleights for variety. The thumb palm and finger palm aren't nearly as tough to master, and are good to have in your bag of tricks. Once you can do a finger palm in each hand, you can also do a shuttle pass, for vanishes and switches. Good luck!

Message: Posted by: Magicusa (Jun 29, 2004 10:13PM)
I couldn't had said it better, Sethb
Message: Posted by: Justin Hart (Jun 30, 2004 12:08PM)
You can expect to reach his level after about twenty years (or more) of hard practice though. That's what keeps me going! ;)

Actually with coin magic, I've certainly noticed that it all really depends on your age. If you grow up with coins, your hands grow into them so to speak. Mine did with cards and the older you are, the more natural your movements will be simply because you KNOW yourself and how your hands will move. As a teen, I remember always feeling awkward and so did my hands. It certainly changed because my hands just feel more graceful and I'm so glad.
Message: Posted by: sethb (Jun 30, 2004 07:05PM)
Had one other thought to add: get a practice mirror. We're not talking about any old bathroom mirror, but a special three-sided hinged mirror that enables you to see your hands from three separate angles. They run about $35 from most magic dealers (Hank Lee, Magic Warehouse, etc.) You could also probably make one from three acrylic mirror tiles and some duct tape from Home Depot, but it would probably end up costing as much or more than the dealer's version.

After all, what good is a perfect classic palm if you are unintentionally flashing the coin? The mirror will exactly mimic the spectators' view, will save you endless hours of practice, and make your practice more efficient. For the price of less than one flipper coin, a practice mirror will help make ALL your sleights look more natural and undetectible. I would definitely consider this item. Good Luck! SETH
Message: Posted by: Michael Bilkis (Jun 30, 2004 08:16PM)
I once saw Michael Rubinstein in real life. He fooled every magician in the room with his coin handling. I recommend his ROPS coin vanish. very powerfull.
Message: Posted by: Hardi (Jul 1, 2004 01:52PM)
Apart of all advantages a mirror has. A mirror is an excellent tool to practice bad habits, such as blinking when the sleight is done. Be that aware. I rarely use a mirror; I only use it to judge my angles.
Message: Posted by: sethb (Jul 7, 2004 12:12PM)
I agree that a mirror is not a cure-all, and it certainly won't help with misdirection or body language, as Hardi notes. Although a mirror is a useful tool, it does have its limits.

But if you can't get someone to watch and judge your sleights and your angles, a mirror can be helpful for that purpose. I think it can also help in making your sleights more convincing; if a false transfer doesn't look good in the mirror, it won't look any better in front of a spectator! SETH