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Message: Posted by: Andini (Jul 21, 2004 11:11AM)
Howdy all! I've been doing magic for children for a number of years, but I'm really getting more serious about show structure and marketing lately. I think a stage name is ideal for me. My last name is "Luttrell" and, while it's not hard to say, it's incredibly difficult to spell upon hearing it. So many people put only one "t" or one "l" and it would affect referrals and website hits, I think. So, I've been thinking of a stage name to use in kidshows:

"Andy Fun"

Now, is that too cheesy? I think it's (1) Easy to say, (2) Easy to remember, (3) Descriptive, and (4) Easy to SPELL!

What does everyone think of it?
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jul 21, 2004 11:23AM)
Hi Andy.
If my name were Andy, I would use "Andy Does It Again" (Sounds like, "And He Does It Again") as my stage name or slogan. Oh well, just a thought.

Best Wishes,

Message: Posted by: Jeff Alan (Jul 21, 2004 11:34AM)

I like both:
ANDY does it again

Also just plain ANDY (you could use a cool font, make the letters crooked and have it as your logo)

Also ANDINI your Café name (may sound cheesy to some?) would be OK for kids.

rolls for me!

Names that DO NOT work: (even though you didn't ask)
Handy Andy
Andy Griffith
Andy 500
Candy Andy
Andy with the Candy
Dandy Andy
Andy is Dandy

and NEVER use...
Andy and the Handy Candy
(but for fun, try to say it 3 times fast)

Handy Jeff
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Jul 21, 2004 12:41PM)
My favorite stage name is Wells Fargo! LOL!
Seriously, the "Andy" by itself is just fine (although there is nothing wrong with Luttrell; after all, try getting "Marucci" spelled or pronouced correctly!).
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (Jul 21, 2004 12:49PM)
Peter, if I remember correctly, your last name is spelled, "Morruchy", is that correct? :)

I still have trouble getting people to spell my name, "Charley", with an "ey instead of the usual "ie". But I just go as "Charley" anyway.

I actually like the idea of using "Andini" as well.
Message: Posted by: Neale Bacon (Jul 21, 2004 01:24PM)
I have problems getting people to spell my first name correctly.

I think a name change can be risky depending on what audience you are performing for and if you decide to change it.

Andy Fun would be great for kids, but for adults I don't know.

I am drawn to Andy Magic or just Andy. To paraphrase that great Canadian icon Red Green "If you don't find your man 'andsome, you should at least find him 'andy."
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jul 21, 2004 02:36PM)
No one hardly ever spells or pronouces my name correctly.

Message: Posted by: Andy Wonder (Jul 21, 2004 04:35PM)
Hi Andy, what a very good question you are asking. I wish I had given this issue more thought when I was younger. A few years ago & I changed from being call Andrew to Andy.

You look very young in your avatar. I assume you are still a teenager so a name change at this stage is not going to be a big issue, but not something you really want to do when you are more established.

One thing you want to think about is, do you know what type of magic you want to perform in the future? If you are going to be performing exclusively children’s magic you can have a more fun orientated name. Like Billy Wiz in the UK. I think his name is great (Billy has a neat tie in with his web site called http://www.billywiz.biz ). If you then are going to perform adult mentalism or some other genre you could use a totally different name & this would avoid people pigeon holing you as just a kid’s entertainer. However if you want to be more of a family entertainer and obtain cross pollination or referrals from kids show client to close or restaurant work etc then you definitely want to keep one name for everything and this is the route I would recommend for most people.

In that case you would want to stay away from the more gimmicky sounding names. Andy is a great name (if I do say so myself). It is easy to say and easy to pronounce plus it will still suit you as you grow older. Andy still suits an older man (think Andy Warhole, the most famous Andy ever).

What I would perhaps recommend for now is keeping your name as it is Andy Luttrel, but not really using the Luttrel part. Just have Andy the Magician on all your stuff and be known as Andy the Magician. You might want to get a logo made up that reads ‘Andy the Magician.’

If you want to use your surname yes I would definitely consider changing it from Luttrell. Having a name that is easy to pronounce and easy to spell (especially if you have it in your web site) is essential. You want to be found on search engines so as well as being easy to spell it is good to have something a little unique. I share my name with a well known Australian rugby player. I am not worried; I will still be performing magic long after he has retired from professional sports.

I think with Andy Fun you are on the right track in that having 1 double syllable name followed by a single syllable is easier to remember than two multiple syllable names (unless you are using a repetition name like Silly Billy). Andy Fun however is a more gimmicky name. Only choose a name like that if you are certain you are going to stick with the kids show route. I can see from your avatar & you card fan you are into cards. That tells me you may be more of a family performer or would also perform close up for adults. As cards don’t usually suit a kids only performer. Ask Emazdad or Billy Wiz how many card fans they do for kids. (Both performers with kid orientated gimmicky names). Their names are easy to remember but would you want to do a family show with a lot of adults or do close up with a name like Andy Fun? I wouldn’t.

Wow... this is getting to be a long post. As for Andini, definitely stay away from it. There is nothing I like about that name. It is unoriginal, cheesy, gimmicky, difficult to spell & pronounce. In fact if I were you I would change my café name to my new show name.

A couple of brain storm names to get some idea’s flowing. How about:

Andy Sun

Andy Lutt

What about using your mother’s maiden name? is that suitable?

Are you about to get married, have you chosen a life partner yet? Perhaps you could adopt you spouse’s surname.

Why not adopt a surname of a well known a respected figure from American history. Like the surname of a former president or hero figure. The advantage of this is it will usually be a name that people already know how to spell or pronounce plus will have good connotations associated with it. Andy Kennedy? Andy Rockefeller? Andy Presley? (Yeah, corny & extreme but you could find a name that suits with this method).

Andy Luttrell, maybe this name is not so bad after all?

I have a friend here in NZ who was called Frank Neiuissier, & he changed is name by deed poll to Frank Newman.

I hope I have been of some help.
Message: Posted by: Bokken (Jul 21, 2004 05:17PM)
Or what about something simple like "Magic Andy"?
<<Although I admit I like the name Andy Fun for kids shows. All kinds of things you can spin off of that for the kids when you're introducing who you are.>>

Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Jul 21, 2004 10:13PM)
Andy Walker writes: "I have a friend here in NZ who was called Frank Neiuissier, & he changed is name by deed poll to Frank Newman."

What a coincidence!

I have a friend named Joe Kazajombowskislitz, & he changed his name by deed poll -- to Bill Kazajombowskislitz!
Message: Posted by: wizardofsorts (Jul 22, 2004 12:11AM)
I would just say, "It's Luttrell, with two t's and two l's." But then again I'm a fan of extra letters in my name. Actually, Edd, my name, came from my mother and was not an invention of mine. But people always ask, "Is your real name Edward?" I say, "Yes." They say, "Does it have two d's in it?" I say, "Yes." Then they always say, "You mean Eddward?" And I answer, "No, that makes three D's you dumb ***."
Ok, I only really use that reply in bars but you get my drift.
Edd <---- It's like Edward without the "war."
Message: Posted by: Emazdad (Jul 22, 2004 01:45AM)
<<<(think Andy Warhole, the most famous Andy ever).>>>

I'd have said Andy Pandy is the most famous Andy. Well in the UK for the over thirty's that is. :)

I agree with Andy on this one Andy. When I used to toy around with the Adult stuff, before I specialised in Children, I found that Emazdad did not fit well as an Adult magicians stage name.

Maybe you could try Andy Andini, thast may work. It's more important than some people think to get the name right If you do get it right people remember it and your bookings increase.

Here's a thought. Andini sounds like a magic word. How about going out as Andy the magician, with Andini as your magic word.
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Jul 22, 2004 01:59AM)
If you ever decide to switch careers & become a sports-announcer, you could change your last name to 'Zowtaheer'
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jul 22, 2004 07:16AM)
In these parts, Andy Griffith is the most famous Andy around.

Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (Jul 22, 2004 10:48AM)
Not a fan of "Andy Fun" , no offense.

It sounds like it is actually a name ON the Andy Griffith show...or Green Acres.

If that is what you are going for, then by all means!
Message: Posted by: harris (Jul 22, 2004 04:39PM)
Since you wear a vest to work,

how about

James Vest.

One young man in our Ring decided to change his last name to something easier remembered.

He went i.e Mark AXXXXXXXNNNNNNNN(made up )_

to Mark Black(Last name accurate, not first)

My last name is difficult to remember and pronounce for some(here in the USA anyway)

Nearly Normal and Laughologist have served me well at the point of contact, and for consumers to contact/find me in web searches.

Harris Deutsch
Message: Posted by: Andini (Jul 22, 2004 04:58PM)
Wow...what a response! Thank you all for helping me so much with this. As far as "Andy Fun" not working in other venues, I totally agree. I really would like to stick with children's magic forever and I hope to do so. I also would love to do standup/parlour magic for adults in the future. But, there's no way that I'd ever market myself to both markets at ONCE! For the two shows, I'd have two completely different marketing approaches.

[i]"I can see from your avatar & you card fan you are into cards. That tells me you may be more of a family performer or would also perform close up for adults. As cards don’t usually suit a kids only performer."[/i]

My avator is actually a few years old. It's funny you mention it, because I'm in the middle of working with a professional children's illustrator. He's drawing a partial-caricature cartoon for me to use in my kidshow logo. This would really lock me into that market.

[i]"Also ANDINI your Café name (may sound cheesy to some?) would be OK for kids."[/i]

Ok...6 years ago, I actually performed under the stage name of "The Great Andini." I ditched it about 4 years ago because it was generic and boring. I just keep "Andini" and use it as my Internet identity. All of my usernames and screen names are "Andini." I just don't want to forget!

A number of people recommended just "Andy." I've thought of going with just plain "Andy" and I think it could definitely work. My fear with it was that "Andy" is just a generic term and could be anybody. But, now that I think about it, once I develop a logo with the cartoon, I'm going to be using it in my show quite a bit as well as using it in all of my marketing materials. So, the kids don't just remember "Andy," they remember the IMAGE [i]and[/i] "Andy."

Very interesting points brought up by everyone and I really appreciate all of them! Thanks!

[i]"If you ever decide to switch careers & become a sports-announcer, you could change your last name to 'Zowtaheer'"[/i]

Haha! That's really funny!
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jul 22, 2004 05:21PM)
Andy -

I used to be The Great Donaldi for the first 10-15 years of my 25+ years performance career, well into my twenties.

About 10+ years ago, I wanted to drop the name, and just use my real name. I have worked pretty hard to get my customers used to my "new" name, but I still have some people I meet on the street who identify me by my old name, over 10 years later. (Or they get mixed up and call me The Great Donaldo.)

What you use for a while, will stick with you. I just cringe when people call me that old stage name.

I use the name The Gr8 DonaldD on many forums, as a reminder of being humble, and that sometimes you can't get away from foolish mistakes!

Choose your new name wisely, and be prepared to accept the fact that some will call you by your old stage name for a few years. :)

- Donald.
Message: Posted by: Andy Wonder (Jul 24, 2004 07:58PM)
Donald, you call yourself great as a reminder of being humble? Is that like little John being called little to remind his is is really big?

Or you use using a corney name to remind yourself of being humble?
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jul 24, 2004 10:16PM)
On 2004-07-24 20:58, Andy Walker wrote:
Or you use using a corney name to remind yourself of being humble?

Yes, to remind myself that I am not Great and not Donaldi and not The! :D

- Donald.
Message: Posted by: weepinwil (Aug 12, 2004 08:19PM)
On 2004-07-22 08:16, Mister Mystery wrote:
In these parts, Andy Griffith is the most famous Andy around.



Glad to see another NC magician. East or West part of state?
Message: Posted by: Regan (Aug 13, 2004 09:32AM)

Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Aug 13, 2004 10:46AM)
Andy Does Magic?
Message: Posted by: 0pus (Aug 13, 2004 12:29PM)
Andy Mirth

Andy Grins

Andy Scamp

Andy Ace