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Topic: What can I do to be a real magician with coins?
Message: Posted by: emeline (Jul 25, 2004 06:52AM)
Hey!

I asked to myself if I had to have some coins always inside my pocket, anywhere, anytime? because yesterday I told to a friend that I was a beginner magician with coins , so he asked to me if I could do something with coins but I hadn't anything inside my pockets!!! so I was not very serious in front of him!!!
emeline :goof:
Message: Posted by: PROFED (Jul 25, 2004 08:10AM)
What can you do to become a real magician with coins?
Well, you learn coin magic and you can do that in a number of ways; books, videos or dvd's and formally with a teacher/student relationship with other magicians or informally with members of magic clubs.

You may check your telepone book for magic shops near you for resouces mentioned above, including magic clubs and organizations. The internet is a great resource. Check out the forums for dealers and links to sites. Google will also help.

For books I would start with Mark Wilsons Complete Course in Magic because in addition to coins it will expose you to the world of magic. Good luck!
Ed Gilmore
Message: Posted by: mike gallo (Jul 25, 2004 08:27AM)
I was not very serious in front of him!!!

There is your answer...get serious!

Mike
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jul 25, 2004 11:31AM)
Mike hit it... "get serious" and PRACTICE and ALWAYS have some coins you can handle well. Size matters.
Message: Posted by: doug brewer (Jul 25, 2004 12:39PM)
There are a number of "impromptu" type effects that you should learn that can be done on the fly for situations like you mentioned. Copper/silver transpos in the spectators hand can be done with a penny and dime (for example). Or, just make sure before you mention you are magician you have some coins on you ready for action. If you go out with friends, expect the same scenario. Be prepared, practice, get serious.

Doug
Message: Posted by: Mediocre the Great (Jul 25, 2004 02:12PM)
"On The Spot", a DVD by Gregory Wilson has lots of cool ideas for impromptu magic with all kinds of things you'll find in your pocket, including coins.

I think you'll enjoy a coin transposition effect he calls "a questionalble trick". It uses a dime and a penny. It also uses one of the the easiest coin "concealments" or ways to palm a coin, which is the "thumb palm". Besides involving two of the most basic coin sleights, it also has some built in mis-dirction that's quite wonderful.

JJ Bobo's book, Modern Coin Magic is also a good place to start. In that book, there is a lifetime of study. When I started out, a book called "now you see it, now you don't" has easy illustrations and suggestions for basic sleight of hand.

I love coin magic because coins are everywhere. Once you start doing coin magic, you will never see coins in the same way again. Anytime I find a new coin, foreign or domestic, the first thing I start doing is see how it fits into all my various coin moves.

Start reading Bobo and start handling coins, and soon you'll have a pocket full of miracles with just a pocket of small change.
Message: Posted by: cheesewrestler (Jul 25, 2004 03:46PM)
You may already know this, but: "La prestidigitation sans appareils" by Camille Gaultier is one of the great magic books of all time. It's huge (~500 pages), contains lots of coin magic (among other types), and it's in French (which I guess if you live in Tours should be no problem for you!)
Message: Posted by: Magicmaven (Aug 1, 2004 04:21PM)
Well, coin magic has been arround for quite a while, and there are so many different things you could get into, but either way you are going to need the basic skills. Get the "complete introduction to coin magic," by Mike Ammar (it teaches you transfers false transfers, palms, ect.). But the guys above me are right. Always have some coins in your pocket, and practice infront of a mirror. And soon you will be on your way to being a Coin Magician. Oh, and listen the guys on this forum, most of them know what their talking about. except for me.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Aug 1, 2004 04:49PM)
Wonderful question. thanks!

what do you imagine a real magician doing with a few coin from his pockets? if you say what you imagine, we can help you find the magic books and tools to help you become that magician you have in your mind.

Please continue,

Jon
Message: Posted by: mattisdx (Aug 1, 2004 05:24PM)
Produce and vanish them! :D
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Aug 1, 2004 07:10PM)
Nobody's said it yet. Get Scotch and Soda. I know - it's a gimmick, but don't completely ignore gimmicks. This one will free you to think of imaginative things to do. Don't stop with just the instructions. Expand your mind. Where can you put that Centavo and how can you get it there? Then, as you are learning sleights with coins add them to Scotch and Soda.

For me Scotch and Soda is training wheels for a coin magician. Let's him know what it feels like riding while he's learning his balance.
Message: Posted by: jsmagus (Aug 1, 2004 07:21PM)
I agree with Rikbrooks. When I started out, I hated Scotch & Soda. I didn't like the idea of having to use gimmicks. But, after I began learning strictly sleight of hand, I came back to it and found how AMAZING you can make it if you have any foundation at all in coin magic.
Also, while on the subject of gimmicks, most laypeople that I know expect some kind of gimmick and will want to examine everything. You want to really knock their socks off? Do it with THEIR coins!
Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (Aug 2, 2004 11:41AM)
Practice until the muscles in your hands hurt.
Message: Posted by: MagicalPirate (Aug 2, 2004 01:04PM)
Go to [url]http://www.magician.org/LocalRings/france.htm[/url] and you will find local IBM rings where you can find other magicians locally. There is a ring in Nantes, Nice and Paris. Although I realize it would be quite a trip I can't find anything closer. You could also try finding magicians in your area who advertise and become friends with them. You should also hunt around and see if you have a local magic shop, there you may be able to get private lessons. That is how I started doing coin magic decades ago.

Martin :pirate:
Message: Posted by: harris (Aug 2, 2004 04:41PM)
Lets get Sewious.

Things that popped into this nearly normal brain.

Coin magic can be done with things like, stones, washers, checkers, or even coins from someone elses pants. Be sure to turn the washer off before doing "coin magic". (mini lol- actually the washers you get at the hardware store..... I call mine Brain Washers.......

Look for a coin and don't find one. (Actually get it out C.P. while getting another prop....rubber band , deck of cards...

Do the other routine then

Produce a coin and go into a 1 coin flurry/routine.

Harris
Message: Posted by: bodiddly (Aug 2, 2004 10:27PM)
Hey, you should keep at least one half dollar always in your wallet.
Message: Posted by: el toro (Aug 3, 2004 07:06AM)
I am not sure a half dollar is the answer if he is living in France. A 2 Euro would be better, and by the way it doesn't look very impromptu with a half dollar in the US either. They must be very rare by now !
Message: Posted by: emeline (Aug 8, 2004 07:48AM)
Thank you everybody for your advices!! now I think I would have 50 cents and some others things always in my pocket!!! by the way 'el toro', in my opinion 2 euros is not very practical because this piece is very small and large! I prefer 50 cents!

kisses, emeline XXX
Message: Posted by: Review King (Aug 8, 2004 08:32AM)
Get serious, serious, let me hear your coin purse talk!!!!! ( done to Olivia Newton John's "Let's Get Physical".