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Topic: Need advice on rope to silks
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Aug 18, 2004 12:50PM)
Hi! I am planning to go from a rope routine to a silk routine but am trying to figure out how to change the rope into three silks. I'm going to be doing Pavel's Devil's Rope which involves a rope made up of 4 colors: white-yellow-blue-red. After this routine, I would like to make the rope disappear and 4 silks (white-yellow-blue-red) appear in its place. Can you guys PM me or refer me to sources that may show me how to do this best without using apparatus like a square circle, change bag, or the like. Thanks!

Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Mar 30, 2005 07:20PM)

How well do you know the electrician? Dark works!

The real problem that I see you facing is the fact that you want to do four instead of one.

It sounds like a great idea. I hope you solve it and let me see it!

Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Mar 30, 2005 08:56PM)
Your comment has stirred the scheming spirits, Bob. A rope to one silk then use the diminishing silks technique to produce the four silks that match the color of the rope. Much easier, right? And it will have the knots in between the colors. And perhaps I will talk to the house electrician --- I would only need two seconds. Thanks again, Bob!

Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Mar 30, 2005 09:09PM)
How about doing an unprepared blendo kind of thing changing the rope into a line of silks? Tie the silks with a square knot and upset the knot. Then you can separate them and use them individually.

Rope could be ditched into a table, topit or use a bag shaped pull. Look at your Peter White tapes with his gimmick for doing a large color changing hank.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 30, 2005 09:40PM)
Not sure but Norm Nielsen may sell a hand held device. You pull something thru your hand and it changes to something else. Originally one colored handkerchief (I hate "silks") for another. Perhaps it would work with rope to sil... er Handkerchiefs. :kermit:
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Mar 31, 2005 06:22PM)
Thanks for all the great advice, gentlemen! You are truly scholars in this field!

Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Apr 1, 2005 10:08PM)
The Neilsen device is limited in how much material can be taken into it. Maybe if you remove the core of the rope it would work.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 2, 2005 12:48AM)
A sleeve pull is the only thing that comes to mind to vanish the ropes and produce the silks by a steal and produce at the same time. Dick Zimmerman Pull or Neff's Miracle Rope Trick would have the required device.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Apr 2, 2005 09:00AM)
If we go to a sleeve pull, it almost becomes a necessity to use a take bird cage type of pull so the effect could be done anytime during the act.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Apr 8, 2005 10:54PM)

Do you work with a stripe down the legs of your costume pants?

A fistful of rope is easy to ditch in the process of appearing to transform rope to silk. (Ever owned a metal measuring tape?)

Scheme! The others are right. The rope core has to go.

We need some StarBuck's time! We have things to discuss.

Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Apr 9, 2005 10:58AM)
BTW, I am at Collector's right now in Las Vegas. I spoke with Norm Neilsen and he has none of the mechanical silk to balls left.
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Apr 9, 2005 02:57PM)
Thanks again, gentlemen! StarBuck's does sound good, Bob! One of these days.

Message: Posted by: David Todd (Apr 10, 2005 03:33PM)
On 2005-04-09 11:58, hugmagic wrote:
BTW, I am at Collector's right now in Las Vegas. I spoke with Norm Neilsen and he has none of the mechanical silk to balls left.


A similar item to the Nielsen Auto-Color Changing Silk device is the Mikame Auto-Silk Changer .


It might work with a soft piece of cored rope and three smallish silks (12 inch) .
Not sure, because I've never tried it that way. You might be able to make it work .

The principle is published in Jean Hugard's "Annual of Magic 1938" as the "Codor Change of Silk in Hand" .
(available as an e-book on The Learned Pig Project web site) .