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Topic: Sponge Ball Learning Resource?
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 26, 2004 10:34PM)
I have owned a set of Sponge Balls for about 6 months now.

I bought them at DisneyLand when I was there, and was never really shown how to properly use them, so I've taught myself a little bit.

I want a good learning resource, a book or video, that will teach me the basics, and maybe a bit more.

Can anyone suggest something good? I've tried the routine in The Complete Course In Magic, but the illustrations are hard to follow for me, so a video might work better.

I was thinking of buying Sankey's earplugs. How does that video work with regular balls?

Any other suggestions?
Message: Posted by: Magic.J.Manuel (Oct 26, 2004 11:53PM)
The MASTER ROUTINE WITH THE SPONGES by, Kozak
http://www.tannens.com/cart/cat15.html
It's an old but nice routine. With only one slight.

Magic by Gosh has Al Goshman's sponges routine which is priceless.

Another resource is Carl Andrews Magic from Maui.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 27, 2004 09:05AM)
Thanks man.

Anyone else?
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Oct 27, 2004 09:12AM)
Mark Wilson's book of close-up.
Jim
Message: Posted by: Craig Ousterling (Oct 27, 2004 12:22PM)
While looking for this type of material recently myself I came across a web page that might help you out. Probably the biggest list of sponge resources I've ever seen.

http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/magspong.htm

~Craig
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 27, 2004 02:49PM)
Wow GreyGhost.

That's a pretty good resource. Thanks.

Does anyone know if the Royal Magic video on Sponge Balls is any good?
Message: Posted by: Terry Holley (Oct 27, 2004 05:37PM)
OK, this is a really tough decision, but here goes!

I'd be willing to sell my copy of Frank Garcia's Encyclopedia of Sponge Ball Magic for $400 (but only while this is posted in "Ever So Sleightly". If the post needs to be moved from here I would want it deleted).

That's $100 less than the copy that is mentioned on the following thread!

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=55537&forum=115&33

So - any delirious - I mean serious takers!

Terry
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Oct 27, 2004 05:42PM)
For goodness sakes, get Patrick Page's Spongeball Video.

Brad Burt has a good one as well.
Message: Posted by: Mike Walton (Oct 27, 2004 06:23PM)
Patrick Page has one of the best all around videos. Jen Jensen's Volume 1 booklet on spongeballs has many sleights and a couple of good routines. You only need to learn one vanish, but learn it well, and if you want to be fancy, then maybe two.

To polish your vanish and routine, then check out Steve Dacri's video available on his website.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 27, 2004 07:00PM)
Thanks guys. Anyone know where I can get a copy of Patrick Page's video?
Message: Posted by: trickster2000 (Oct 27, 2004 09:38PM)
25 tricks with spongeballs has a nice routine... its pretty standard, but you won't have to spend big bucks for this vid. it's pretty much the same as the Brad Burt and Pat Page videos. Theres a really good routine from Michael Sibbernstein(not sure if I spelled his name correctly..my appologies Mike) called Technicolor Spongeballs.. Mike is a member here at the Café, he was givving it away for free before, but I'm not sure if he still is. you might want to send him a p.m.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Oct 28, 2004 12:00AM)
I just watched Dean Dill's Intimate Miracles video and was fooled by his routine. I like it.
Message: Posted by: Mike Walton (Oct 28, 2004 01:39PM)
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On 2004-10-27 20:00, Iceman90 wrote:
Thanks guys. Anyone know where I can get a copy of Patrick Page's video?
[/quote]
I'll see it every now and then in the DVDs and videos forum here on the Café. You could also post a "Wanted-Patrick Page's Spongeball video" thread in the same forum. Café members have been helpful so I've had good luck picking up used/new tapes from other Café members with my previous "wanted" posts.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 28, 2004 08:06PM)
Thanks Mike. Frank Starsini has already offered to sell me a copy.
Message: Posted by: Terry Holley (Oct 28, 2004 10:08PM)
Wow! No takers at $400. You guy's are tough! OK -I'm dropping my copy of Garcia's Encyclopedia to $395. As a bonus I will also include a bookmark.

Terry
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Oct 28, 2004 10:16PM)
$395 and a bookmark? Even Penguin Magic offers better freebies then that!
Message: Posted by: tallant (Nov 1, 2004 12:18PM)
Best not go down that route Iceman!

And thanks Craig (GreyGhost) for that link- very useful!
Message: Posted by: ShidennOdmistL (Nov 1, 2004 09:44PM)
[quote]
On 2004-10-27 00:53, Magic.J.Manuel wrote:

Magic by Gosh has Al Goshman's sponges routine which is priceless.

[/quote]

Really? But the routine is kinda difficult to understand. Or maybe its just me.

Sol
Message: Posted by: Riley (Nov 2, 2004 01:48PM)
You can find Patrick Pages Sponge Ball video here:

http://www.misdirections.com/videop.htm

It's very good.

Riley
Message: Posted by: ShidennOdmistL (Nov 3, 2004 03:17PM)
Thanx. I'll go check it out.

Sol
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Nov 6, 2004 03:37PM)
Yikes I was just doing some searching and there's a used book seller (non-magic) with 2 first editions of Garcia's Sponge Ball books. One is signed. Priced at
$450 and 650. I believe they may sell for other sellers.
Message: Posted by: Owen Thomas (Nov 28, 2004 08:25AM)
I know this is of topic but... once you learn sponge ball slieghts can you use these slieghts on normal objects? (grapes, bit's of paper?)
Message: Posted by: Tysmagic (Nov 28, 2004 09:26AM)
Ear Plugs by Jay Sankey. It is a DVD that comes with "ear plugs" to use as sponge balls. It has the best teachings I have ever seen in a sponge ball video.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=170

Very well worth it!
Message: Posted by: Brian Tanner (Nov 29, 2004 10:54AM)
[quote]
On 2004-11-28 09:25, Owen Thomas wrote:
I know this is of topic but... once you learn sponge ball slieghts can you use these slieghts on normal objects? (grapes, bit's of paper?)

[/quote]Hi Owen. Absolutely! Infact,you can adapt many of these sleights to coins as well.Many a sleight of hand artists got their start with sponge balls that came with their first magic set.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Nov 29, 2004 12:39PM)
[quote]
On 2004-11-28 10:26, Tysmagic wrote:
Ear Plugs by Jay Sankey. It is a DVD that comes with "ear plugs" to use as sponge balls. It has the best teachings I have ever seen in a sponge ball video.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=170

Very well worth it!
[/quote]

The moves and sleights taught in that video can be easily adapted to actual Sponge Balls?
Message: Posted by: Yfirum (Nov 29, 2004 03:02PM)
Hi guys,
maybe I'm missing something, but my local magic dealer sells Garcias Encyclopedia for 70 Swiss Franks which are about 100 dollars.
I see a difference of lousy 300 bucks.
whats the point about the 400 $ encyclopedia? Is the german version cheaper because we old europeans need some support? ;-)

yfirum
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Nov 30, 2004 11:59AM)
If you can find it, Carneycopia has a 2 ball routine.
Scott Guinn's PBJ has some great routining. The routine itself is not my style but it's well put together and worth acquiring.
Message: Posted by: Kaliix (Nov 30, 2004 01:13PM)
Do yourself a favor, spend the $10 on the 25 tricks with a sponge ball video. It has enough basic sleights to develop a routine out of. I have used the basic spongeball routine on that tape (modified slightly and with original patter) for years to great effect. My students always remember the sponge ball routine.
Message: Posted by: stuper1 (Nov 30, 2004 02:37PM)
L&L Publishing has Patrick Page's spongeball video on sale for $10, and it's a great video for someone starting out.
Message: Posted by: NickJegor (Dec 11, 2004 07:52AM)
The Penguinmagic have something I think, Jay Sankey earplug and sponge balls routine!
I sugest you to think something by your self, master the movies and false moves!
Message: Posted by: lynnef (Dec 12, 2004 12:01AM)
The 25 tricks video by Hampton Ridge (w/Dave Hudspath) gives you the productions, vanishes, and a coupla routines with corny patter. I have found spongeball magic to have strong effect at times. A lot of sleights work for a variety of objects, but the production and vanish of 2 inch spongeballs can be startling. The earplugs video is good, but it is geared around the one routine. On the other hand, we all use earplugs ... but what the heck are "spongeballs"?
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Dec 12, 2004 10:03AM)
Aren't sponge balls found inside square pants?
Message: Posted by: zur (Dec 12, 2004 01:19PM)
I last found Frank Garcia's book for 200 dollars on ebay.
Message: Posted by: Neil (Dec 13, 2004 04:28AM)
Sankey's Earplugs! video is excellent IMO.

Sankey is slick with his sleights and it makes it very easy to pick up. You get about 4 decent routines and a load of moves.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 13, 2004 04:36AM)
[quote]
On 2004-12-13 05:28, Neil wrote:
Sankey's Earplugs! video is excellent IMO.

Sankey is slick with his sleights and it makes it very easy to pick up. You get about 4 decent routines and a load of moves.
[/quote]

Does he actually teach the routines? I've been told he only shows them but doesn't teach the full routines.
Message: Posted by: Steinbock (Dec 13, 2004 07:03PM)
Sankey does teach routines on the DVD. And it's pretty good. Sankey is pretty goofy. (Okay, he's completely wacko). So his style may turn some people off. But I get a kick out of it. (But after watching an entire hour of him, I vow to give up coffee).

Here's the contents of Earplugs:

MOVES:
Retention Vanish
Upside Down Retention Vanish
False Transfer
False Take
Acquitment
The Nothing Transfer
The Pop-up move
Double Steal
Backdoor Steal
Banana Split
Roll Around Split
Ten Count
Hard of Hearing Opener (sponges from ears)
Jumbo Load Techniques

ROUTINES:
Shotgun Production Sequence
Likes Attract
Four on the Floor
The Pick Pocket

(Plus five other non-spongeball effects)

Magnus, I didn't make the spongebob connection until I did a Yahoo search for "patrick page sponge" and got thousands of links to pages about Spongebob and his pal Patrick.

Are you ready kids? . . .
Message: Posted by: Neil (Dec 15, 2004 04:39AM)
I learned a hell of a lot from that Sankey vid. I watched it over and over. Practised for a month and ended up with 2 very nice routines.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 15, 2004 03:40PM)
Does the Earplugs stuff work just as well with "those old red spongeballs" as Jay says?
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 15, 2004 06:06PM)
[quote]
On 2004-12-12 14:19, zur wrote:
I last found Frank Garcia's book for 200 dollars on ebay.
[/quote]

I have a copy of this I'm about to put on ebay.
If anyone has to have it before I do, PM me.

Frank
Message: Posted by: Steinbock (Dec 16, 2004 06:58PM)
Iceman,

Yes, as far as sleights and moves go, Earplugs translates perfectly to regular spongeballs. Where it differs is in Sankey's patter, which involves pulling earplugs out of ears, etc.

There are certain things that are easier with earplugs than with balls. The earplugs sit flat in the palm without rolling around. Also, the Pop-up move works so easily and naturally with earplugs that it'll take some practice to get the same effect from balls.

Bottom line, Sankey's Earplugs covers all (or most?) of the traditional moves of spongeball magic, but with a unique plotline, and with Jay's bizarre sense of humor.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Dec 17, 2004 12:27AM)
[quote]
On 2004-12-16 19:58, Steinbock wrote:
Iceman,

Yes, as far as sleights and moves go, Earplugs translates perfectly to regular spongeballs. Where it differs is in Sankey's patter, which involves pulling earplugs out of ears, etc.

There are certain things that are easier with earplugs than with balls. The earplugs sit flat in the palm without rolling around. Also, the Pop-up move works so easily and naturally with earplugs that it'll take some practice to get the same effect from balls.

Bottom line, Sankey's Earplugs covers all (or most?) of the traditional moves of spongeball magic, but with a unique plotline, and with Jay's bizarre sense of humor.
[/quote]

Sounds worth getting. I enjoy Sankey's teaching.
Message: Posted by: caseman (Dec 17, 2004 10:06PM)
Iceman. Frank Garcia's book is in my opinion the best treatise on the subject of spongeball magic. It has a multiplicity of sleights including vanishes, aquitments and such. If you can swing it,it would serve you well. I published a very commercial routine in an issue of MUM earlier this year in Cody Fisher's Column I believe it was the June issue(It has Mark DeSouza on the cover. If you have an interest in this PM me and I will get you a copy of the routine. It is called 3 Ball in the side pocket.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 18, 2004 01:15AM)
It's about to go on ebay.
I'll probably put it up there tomorrow.

The book is basically in mint condition.