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Topic: Best source to learn card productions
Message: Posted by: RJE (Nov 1, 2004 11:47AM)
I've owned Nielson cards for years but only recently actually unwrapped them and started playing with them around the house. I can produce them slowly and awkwardly one at a time from the b**k p**m (don't know how much I can say on the posting). I want to find out if I'm doing it right and it's just going to take a lot more practice before putting it in my stage act OR if I'm not doing it right and it's still going to take a lot more practice before putting it in my stage act. So if anyone can suggest a book with good diagrams/pictures or video /DVD that walks someone through this, I would appreciate it.
Message: Posted by: maylor (Nov 1, 2004 01:10PM)
Here's the first of a string of recommendations you're gonna get for .............. McBride.
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Nov 1, 2004 01:38PM)
Jeff Sheridan
Tarbell Course in Magic
Message: Posted by: RJE (Nov 1, 2004 09:03PM)
Thank you. I will look into both.
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Nov 1, 2004 10:16PM)
The Routined Manipulation series by Lewis Ganson.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Nov 2, 2004 06:30AM)

I first learned from the book, "Routined Manipulation" but I think there are a number of video sources that are better. I think this is one case where video/DVD instruction is superior to learning from a book.

McBride's stuff is excellent. He is one of the best teachers I've ever seen.

I hope this helps you.

Message: Posted by: RJE (Nov 2, 2004 11:28AM)
Thanks for the help. I just ordered the McBride Art of Card Manipulation Vol. 2. Should have it in a week.
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Nov 2, 2004 12:16PM)
On 2004-11-02 12:28, RJE wrote:
Thanks for the help. I just ordered the McBride Art of Card Manipulation Vol. 2. Should have it in a week.

The McBride dvd's are excellent. However, Jeff Sheridan's dvd on card manipulations was more beneficial to me than McBride's Vol. 2.
Message: Posted by: kipling100 (Nov 2, 2004 01:59PM)
I would recommend Sheridan's vol 2 after studying McBride's set just because McBride is more thorough with his explanations. Sheridan's dvd has a few productions and nuances that are great though, but he may go too fast if you're just starting out.

Message: Posted by: RJE (Nov 2, 2004 08:27PM)
OK, there goes the budget, I've also ordered Jeff Sheridan's Volume 2 as well. Looking forward to learning from the 2 Jeff's! :)

Thanks for the input!
Message: Posted by: icentertainment (Nov 3, 2004 01:47AM)
Cancel you sheridan dvds if possible

Card manips take time.

Their is more than enough material on the 2 nd McBride dvd
go with vol 1 first he teaches the correct way to do the back palm, the pivot and the easier perfect production these are the foundation for vol 2.

Jeff sheridan is a great manipulator- even better than McBride when it comes to cards but he is a shocking teacher.

go with the 3 McBrides first, then if they are not enough go with the sheridans.

No offence to sheridan great performer but his teaching ability on the DVDs are not that good.

Message: Posted by: wikiro (Nov 3, 2004 07:37AM)
Ok just get the Jeff McBride set. Then grow from there and I would HIGHLY RECOMAND the whole set. Not just volume 2. You will be in the dark otherwise if your starting out. Oh and Jeff Sheridans not a bad DvD to have so don worry about it. Then I hurd the Romaine DVD was good but not sure.
Message: Posted by: RJE (Nov 3, 2004 07:42AM)
Thanks for the advice icentertainment, but I think I'll stay with the Sheridan order. Even if it is not a great teaching aide, it might still prove a valuable resource and a nice addition to the private library.

Wikiro, thanks for the tip about McBride Vol 1. I have a friend who has that in VHS and I know I can access it through trade or otherwise. (To just say I'll borrow it may or may not cause some moral dilemas over copyrights etc...)

Again, to all that helped, thank-you. I'm looking forward to someday adding cards to my dove act. RJE
Message: Posted by: magicjon33 (Dec 28, 2004 07:29PM)
What isa back palm?? als I wanna do is a back palm vanish just the technique please email me at: Paintman_jon33@hotmail.com
Message: Posted by: Darkwing (Dec 30, 2004 02:40PM)
Get Mc Bride's Manipulation Without Tears and then get the Card Manipulation video series Vol. 1-3.