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Topic: Rabbits and Snakes
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 24, 2004 01:51AM)
I know we should keep rabbits indoors and all but I got a scary email about rattlesnakes smelling out rabbits and being attracted to your yard (outdoor hutches).

Anyone heard of this?
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Nov 24, 2004 04:38AM)
This won't help your feelings, but if the snakes are there, they are already there. We have rattlesnakes to spare in Alabama. But I have never seen one near the rabbit. They seem to prefer the cover of old dead logs to open ground. Dead trees do seem to be attactors.

If you run low on rattlesnakes, we'll be glad to give some of ours. Of course, we have plenty of other types too. Some are aggressive. Rattlers here are usually large enough to see from a distance. It's the snakes under four feet long that get people here in the most trouble. Those come to water and don't "advertise" before they bite you. Don't leave your boots outside and always check a fishing or ski boat before getting in. It's embarrassing to leave a good boat in the middle of the lake!

Bob
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 06:38AM)
I don't know about snakes, but my rabbits seemed to attract a black bear once. One morning last spring I went outside and there had been a light, spring snowfall. I saw bear tracks right in my yard. I started following them and I could see where they were leading. I immediatly started worrying about my rabbits. Sure enough, the big, furry rascal had went straight to my rabbit hutches. Oh, no! As I got closer, I could see that one of the rabbit feeders was lying on the ground underneath a hutch. It had been ripped off. The wire from the hutch was torn to pieces. This also left a hole where my bunny could have gotten out. But to my surprise the rabbits were fine. I had to buy a new feeder and make some repairs, but I was real thankful that my bunnies were still there...and alive.

Regan
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 24, 2004 08:25AM)
Regan,

Unreal, Carolina big bears, oh my!

If you run low on rattlesnakes, we'll be glad to give some of ours.

Funny Bob, I have the 1/4 inch wire mesh so it would be hard for one of em triangle heads to get thru.......
my friends were on the ground anyways.

Paranoid about everything these days but the show must go on:)
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 08:57AM)
Thanks for the offer Candini, but I don't need the rattlesnakes. They are common in an area about 10-15 miles form my house, but one has not been seen right here for like 50+ years. My Grandfather used to kill them right around where I live, but luckily they must have migrated a little. They are common around where my brother lives also, and he is about 17 miles from me. If I need to be around them, they are close enough.

Regan
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Nov 24, 2004 10:47AM)
Regan,

I've learned to live with snakes and things work out fine. However, I would always rather be "where a bear was" than "where a bear is".

Bob
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 11:45AM)
I totally agree Bob! I'm glad he wasn't still lurking in the bushes when I went out there. We have signs all around our area. Several recent sightings nearby and more tracks on my property. I worry about my rabbits.

Regan
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Nov 24, 2004 01:30PM)
HI,
Something we don't have to worry about in the UK Snakes or Bears! Foxes on the other hand!
Phillip
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 03:38PM)
I just hope the bear(s) stay away from my bunnys. They 'bearly' survived last time.

:)

Regan
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 24, 2004 04:58PM)
Phillip,

Ya'll still zero for rabies cases over there?
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 24, 2004 05:38PM)
Forget the bears, rattlers, alligators, lions, tigers OH MY...

Your greatest danger to rabbits are dogs; domesticated and wild dogs.

In the city dogs run wild in packs, live in vacant homes, and they will kill any animal for food. Cats, rats, caged rabbits, and other dogs.

I live very near a state forrest, and they live there too. Dogs not on the least are the biggest threat.

My brother's dog killed my flemish giant. He use its teeth and spread the wire. It was my favorite. I couldn't get another rabbit for many years after that.

I then had three, which accidently mated and I had fourteen. Many were given to a local pet store for the easter holidays. The other six, four were killed by dogs crawling under the cages and ripping their skins off during the night. The other one was frightened to death over the incident (They do die of fright, heart attack if older.) The last one lived for about four more years. After this incident it would be another 10 years before I would buy more rabbits.

After the last dog incident, I have an open air enclosed deck with roof where they live. Every day I check on them. There is no way a dog can get to them.

Your number one killer of pet rabbits are dogs.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 24, 2004 05:45PM)
I oucher... have a pretty good caliber handgun for that... actually have a good pellet gun also.

That is sad, real sad. We've had some roamers here also but usually just attack garbage. Easy to know they are in the area if our garbage is turned over.

Posted: Nov 24, 2004 6:47pm

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The other six, four were killed by dogs crawling under the cages and ripping their skins off during the night.

Some say to have all wood and no wire. I have wood pullout trays underneath but wire on sides and on doors. My new white baby just stands out big time and lays right at front door of hutch also. He's got a wood box but he won't go in it even when cold.
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 06:01PM)
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On 2004-11-24 18:38, DenDowhy wrote:

The other six, four were killed by dogs crawling under the cages and ripping their skins off during the night.

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Sorry to hear that Dennis. I had a magician friend of mine that recently lost his rabbit like that.

I've got some wild dogs around here too. And many neighbors dogs that roam at night. Coyotes are getting really plentiful also.

Regan
Message: Posted by: james_magic (Nov 24, 2004 06:29PM)
Where I live the only animal we really have to worry about are domesticated cats. They jump the fences freely and I'm always chasing them away from my bird aviary. When I was little I had a rabbit and a cat killed it, they have also killed some of my doves, I now hate cats!!!
But I guess if I didn't live in the suburbs I would have to worry about snakes. Not worry for my pets, but me. I hear the snakes in Australia are really dangerous!

James
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Nov 28, 2004 12:23AM)
I have an outdoor cat which leaves my rabbits alone even when I have them on patio supervised.

Could it be that having an outdoor cat that would fight the other cats be good?

Posted: Jan 18, 2006 11:54pm
Okay, I just saw two foxes in my yard. My rabbit hutches are off the ground and built of wood and have heavy wire mesh on the doors. Bottom has wooden pull outs.

Anyone know if foxes are a hazard?
Message: Posted by: freefallillusion1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:29AM)
Well, to add my 2 cents to this, I can tell you that for the most part, any big rabbit that is larger than a baby won't be much of an attraction to a smaller rattlesnake. You'd have to be talking about something like a big Eastern Diamondback before there would be a problem. If you're concerned, just use square hardware cloth on your hutch (1/2 inch or smaller) instead of chicken wire, and no snake capable of doing any harm will be able to get in.

As for dogs, however, I can personally attest to their ability to do serious damage. My hutches were built with wire bottoms (again, 1/2 inch square hardware cloth) and on two separate occasions, neighborhood dogs were able to literally chew off my rabbits feet through the bottom of the hutch. Not a good thing.

I would suspect the e-mail you got came from someone who just naturally has a fear of snakes. Snakes aren't furry creatures with big eyes, so naturally, people can get away with doing things to them that, if done to a dog or cat, would get PETA's bowels in an uproar. Look at available data rather than bias, and you'll find that you have a greater chance of being injured by a bite from a fellow human being than from a snake. Just cage the rabbits properly and keep the dogs out. Good luck!
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 19, 2006 02:30AM)
But what about that Nile mosquito virus. It's been over here a few years. It has killed a lot of birds and some humans. Your rabbit being surrounded by a screen will be helpful. And don't keep the rabbit near open water.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jan 20, 2006 02:11AM)
2 AM and time for a perimeter check, sigh:(
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 22, 2006 11:58AM)
Can West Nile Virus be a problem for rabbits? I have never heard of rabbits contracting the disease.

Regan
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 23, 2006 10:17PM)
Birds get the disease, people get the disease. I feel rabbits can get it also.
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 23, 2006 10:22PM)
You may be right. I would like to know more on the subject of rabbits and West Nile Virus.