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Topic: Suspension Illusion velvet!!
Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Nov 24, 2004 06:36PM)
Greetings Members-

I have a fabulous Pro built Suspension Illusion. The main bar has been primered & painted twice. It looks ok, but I understand black velvet applied to bar will give a great black finish.

What is the best way to apply velvet to metal bar & what glue, velvet, etc?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks so much!
Message: Posted by: Regan (Nov 24, 2004 07:10PM)
Don Drake told me to use 3M Super 77 Spray Glue. I haven't tried this type yet, though I have used a similar glue made by 3M with great success. I think the type I used was #74, so I am assuming that Super 77 is a new, improved type.

As far as the velvet goes, Triple Velvet is the way to go. It has no nap.

Hope this helps.

Message: Posted by: The Mirror Images (Nov 24, 2004 08:55PM)
That or if you want to be darning gorellia glue...this stuff is wounderful and has a better hold. But I would use the spray suggested above before useing this cause it can get a bit crazy with it....but you hold will be better with gorellia glue...

More or less if you are putting weight on to the velvet you want to use gorellia glue.

Message: Posted by: Cliffg37 (Nov 24, 2004 09:22PM)
Trust me, go with the spray product. I got a great price and quick delivery on the velvet from denver fabrics.


Do use the triple blcak velvet, and check sides to see which is the less reflective side. (shine a bright light on it at and angle.)
Message: Posted by: TricksDaniel (Nov 25, 2004 01:28AM)
I agree with Mister Mystery to use the 3M super 77. I just built a wizard's fantasy table with the help of Dondrake. And definitely use the triple black velvet. As far as Cliffg77 said, and check sides to see which is the less reflective side. (shine a bright light on it at an angle.) If it is true Triple Black Velvet then you will not have a problem at all with reflection as it has no nap to it. You can run your fingers on it one way and back and it will be the same. True Triple Black Velvet is 65% Acetate and 35% Rayon. Hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: The Mirror Images (Nov 25, 2004 02:14PM)
I tried useing that when I was building my appearing bowling ball from brief case and it failed on me. That is why if you are using weight I suggest to go with Gorellia glue. Works like a charm. Just let it dry. Takes a good 24 hours

Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Nov 25, 2004 04:32PM)
To all the above replies

Thank you so much-I will go with the spray as well as the triple velvet

I am only covering the bar from protuding from the base up to small board the assistant lies on so no weight touches the velvet except when I carry back to car etc-about 4 feet will be covered the rest of bar is hidden in base & under board etc

Thank you all so much-Im onto it this weekend!!
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Nov 29, 2004 12:09AM)
Remember, fabric has spaces, between the threads of the weave, the G-glue will hold, but will work through and give you a stiff, unsatisfactory surface on the fabric. Consider having your velvet basted or stitched into a tube after gluing into place. Have a hem sewn onto the velvet edges to facilitate this, spray the glue onto the surface, allow to dry the first coating, then spray a second coat, and roll the velvet into place, with clean hands, rub the fabric into place-gently! If a location fails to stick well, take a blow dryer on MEDIUM, and gently heat the area, and allow to cool before rubbing down.
(My ex used to be an upholsterer, I learned a few things, including when to use silicone spray to make fabric slip over foam shapes!!)
Oh! Be sure to make a test bit first to insure it does not reqact adversly with the paints or the fabric- which is why to let it dry a bit first, so the solvents have time to go away some.
Good luck
Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Nov 29, 2004 05:56PM)
Thanks Kay!!

Great advice-will take heed!