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Topic: Rope Through Neck/Body
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Dec 22, 2004 05:15AM)
Hello All,
I do not do any rope magic but I've always enjoyed watching the effect where a magi causes a piece of rope to pass through either the neck or body of the spec or self after the rope has apparently been secured/knotted/looped around the body or neck. Would anyone care to share a method with me? Feel free to PM as revealing secrets isn't "appropriate" in this particular forum. Thank you all!
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Dec 22, 2004 09:24AM)
The Dover reprint of Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic is cheap and readily available. It contains many good penetrations.

John
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Dec 22, 2004 11:23AM)
You can also find a version in the Tarbell series.
Message: Posted by: Dorian Gray (Dec 22, 2004 11:42AM)
I use a silk to do the trick that you are describing. If it is the same trick, it can be found in any good book on silks. I have also seen it in several beginning books on magic.
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Dec 22, 2004 05:28PM)
I like using the Tenkai method for this. It's found in Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic Volume 1 and Daryl's Foolers Doolers DVD volume 2.

Jimmy
Message: Posted by: KV Magic (Dec 22, 2004 05:50PM)
I have used a method found in Magic for Dummies. There is also a method in Mark Wilson's Course.

Keith
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Dec 23, 2004 12:05AM)
Thank you all for your responses! I am beginning some deeper research now and can't wait to see what I find. Again, thank you!
Message: Posted by: juggle (Dec 31, 2004 12:48AM)
Is the method that Daryl teaches on his videos really practical? It seems that the spectator sees that something is going on (but it is so fast that they can't really see exactly what is going on)...
Message: Posted by: thumbslinger (Dec 31, 2004 12:56AM)
Daryl's Fooler Doolers vol.2 has two methods for the body and one for the neck.
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Dec 31, 2004 06:07PM)
Juggle, I almost take your question as being rhetorical since you seem to answer it as soon as you asked it. I do think it is practical since the audience doesn't really pick up on anything being done other what seems to be going on --- which is the rope going around the neck. If you tie again in front of your neck there is a knot after the penetration.

Jimmy
Message: Posted by: pointStack (Jan 6, 2005 08:47AM)
Daryl's video set on ropes is all that you will ever need.
Message: Posted by: joespc (Feb 3, 2005 08:09PM)
Tenkai's rope through neck is my favorite. A normal piece of rope is used and it can be done at any time.
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Feb 6, 2005 08:54PM)
I am going to second the recommendation of Daryl's Rope DVD's -- they are terrific for those who do better watching than reading.

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: TommyTheTremendous (Feb 8, 2005 01:23PM)
I too use the method described in Mark Wilson's book, with a little twist I put in it as well.
Message: Posted by: Doc Pepper (Mar 2, 2005 09:59PM)
I do the rope thru the body and the scarf thru the neck in all my shows. They are real crowd pleasers. I also do the `thru the beads' illusion where a person holds a big bead in his hand and you tie the small rope around his hand. When jerked, the rope comes thru his hand leaving the bead in place inside his hand..

There are many many books out there that explain these tricks.
Message: Posted by: scottasf (Mar 7, 2005 05:54PM)
Greetings,

I end my show with a version of Ropes through the body.
I use 3 spectaters 2 men (at each end of the ropes and a woman in the middle)


I got this routine from a friend, but it is based on the Grandmother's Necklace principle.

PM me for more details.

Magically thine,

Scott Alcalay
Message: Posted by: PaxMentis (Apr 16, 2005 09:51PM)
Years ago I purchased the Rope thru Neck from Owen. It worked great until I misplaced it. Trying to use regular rope caused a rope burn around my neck. The Owen rope has an outer silky covering which prevented the burn. They also provided a really cool routine, but for the sake of me, I can't remember what it was.

Pax Mentis
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Apr 17, 2005 01:06AM)
Pax, you can over come that by wearing a shirt with a collar--or picking a spec with said type of shirt. Just flip up the collar. I do this as I explain, "If the trick works, this will prevent a rope burn. If it doesn't, a rope burn will be the least of your problems!"
Message: Posted by: Roland Henning (Apr 17, 2005 08:09AM)
The end of my rope act is "the rope thru the neck" I use the version published in Magic for Dummies, which I believe is Tenkai's version.

http://www.magicvideodepot.com/view.php?a=v&t=5247
This is the link, so you can see, that it really is practical and gets good reactions. (The video is in German)

mmG Roland Henning
Message: Posted by: PaxMentis (Apr 17, 2005 09:44AM)
Scott,

Thanks for the tip. Poe was right, the most obvious is the hardest to fathom.

Pax Mentis
Message: Posted by: Glenn Godsey (May 25, 2005 12:23AM)
[quote]
On 2005-04-17 09:09, Roland Henning wrote:
The end of my rope act is "the rope thru the neck" I use the version published in Magic for Dummies, which I believe is Tenkai's version.

http://www.magicvideodepot.com/view.php?a=v&t=5247
This is the link, so you can see, that it really is practical and gets good reactions. (The video is in German)

mmG Roland Henning
[/quote]

Roland, I really enjoy your style and your stage personality.

Best regards,
Glenn Godsey
Message: Posted by: froggyman (May 26, 2005 05:12PM)
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On 2004-12-22 18:28, Jimmy Joza wrote:
I like using the Tenkai method for this. It's found in Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic Volume 1 and Daryl's Foolers Doolers DVD volume 2.

Jimmy
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Same here I do it through their body With a big build up. It really feels like it is going through. Also try doing it through your body and suit coat.
Froggy
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 26, 2005 05:21PM)
Roland

Thanks for that video, even though I couldn't understand the words, you obviously have an entertaining performance. What do you recommend for a newbie to rope? I am considering Tabary routine, and Abbott's Encyclopedia(which is supposed to be republished 3-in-1 volume latter this summer)

John
Message: Posted by: blazes816 (May 26, 2005 09:51PM)
Kv you read magic 4 dummies? good. I thought I was the only 1. the the practicle encyclopedia of magic. it has all kinds of tricks.
Message: Posted by: rumburak (Jun 7, 2005 08:10AM)
There is also a complete routine together with presentation suggestions in Nelm's "Magic and Showmanship". If you have this book in your library (which I can recommend in any case), you can find something there.