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Topic: Magician foolers
Message: Posted by: rogerj (Dec 29, 2004 09:26PM)
Greeetings, does anyone know of any books that contain material suitable to be known as well.........magician foolers?
thanks
RogerJ
Message: Posted by: IanB (Dec 30, 2004 02:13AM)
Bob King has a book called "Magician Foolers" and IMHO it delivers.
Message: Posted by: John McLaughlin (Dec 30, 2004 07:47AM)
David Solomon has a section in his book "Solomon's Mind" that is geared towards magicians. It's in Part III of the book, and is titled "For Sessions."
Message: Posted by: Samuel Catoe (Dec 30, 2004 02:22PM)
Try the Terri Rogers "Secrets" series.
Message: Posted by: Fredrick (Jan 11, 2005 02:44PM)
Try just about any book that is more than 10 years old :)

I would go to some of the classic texts - Tarbell, Greater Magic, etc. Its amazing what's in there. Of course you would need to update it and make it yours....

~ Fredrick
Message: Posted by: ClouDsss (Jan 11, 2005 08:51PM)
I don thk commercialised stuff can fool many magicians due to the nature of it (commercialise = anyone who can afford can buy)

I think the best magician foolers are those tricks which you created urself as only you know the secret

cheerios
Message: Posted by: Turk (Jan 11, 2005 09:12PM)
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On 2005-01-11 15:44, Fredrick wrote:
Try just about any book that is more than 10 years old :)

I would go to some of the classic texts - Tarbell, Greater Magic, etc. Its amazing what's in there. Of course you would need to update it and make it yours....

~ Fredrick
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Amen!! There is gold in "them thar books". And, magicians can be pretty easy to fool if you ring in an old chestnut that they think is being done one way (the "normal" way) and you are actually using a different methodology. I've fooled some pretty knowledgable card magicians with some old essentially self-working card tricks that haven't seen the light of day for a long while. In addition to Tarbell's, I would recommend the 3 volume "The Jinx" set. Magic from the late '30s and '40s. Or the old Phoenix set of books (I think that there were 5 or 6 of them).

For instance, within the first 5 tricks in volume one of The Jinx is a method for making a face up one-way deck of cards. I've stumped many magicians using this method and doing the 'ol "lie detector" routine after having a card FREELY selected (they are looking for a classic force so oblige them and pretend that you are trying to do one). Let them freely pick any card and then genuinely shuffle the deck of cards with many overhand suffles. The magicians are looking for pinky breaks, crimpted cards, key cards, card controls, etc. The suffles are genuine and you have no idea where in the deck their card is. It is obvious that NO card controls are being used. They NEVER suspect something so obvious and which is staring them in the face the entire time. (Actually, they will give you credit for the most amazing card control that they have ever seen performed!!) This effect drives them nuts!!

There are many many effect of this nature that drive magicians "in the know" nuts. The mehodology does not register on a layman because they have no idea of DLs, top palms, Zarrows, Side Steals, etc. With a layman, you might as well just use a key card or a crimp. With a magician, its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Mike
Message: Posted by: George Bleeks (Jan 12, 2005 04:47AM)
I agree - look to the old books and magazines. Also, check out The Charlatan's Handbook by Sid Fleischman. There are a few effects in there that were put together specifically to perform at magic clubs. These are designed to fool other magicians. I have had great fun with them, especially an effect with a one-way forcing deck. The book also has loads of other great material complete with some fantastic scripts and plots.
Message: Posted by: George Bleeks (Jan 12, 2005 04:54AM)
I've just remembered - also have a look at Greater Artful Dodges Of Eddie Fields, some of Aldo Colombini's recent books and any of the Semi-Automatic series by Steve Beam.