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Topic: Making custom flap for spirit slates
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Jan 6, 2005 07:59PM)
I found my Bazar de Magia slate flap to be far too small to be examinable by spectators, as they advertise - a 9 year old would notice it. Of course, no such slate would pass intense scrutiny, but I would not feel secure with these. I decided to make my own, and make it a little larger so as to blend in better. I bought some sheet alum at Home Depot, but it's still a bit too heavy, gauge-wise. It's also hard to get a nice straight cut with tin snips. The sheet alum in hobby shops would be perfect, but it's not wide enough. Chalkboard paint works wonderfully, incidentally.
Anyone have any ideas to offer ? Thanks !
Message: Posted by: Leland Stone (Jan 6, 2005 08:12PM)
Hiya, Cyber:

Yes. Toss the snips and get thee to an industrial metals supplier or machine shop. There, said source will use their shear [large, industrial guillotine-like machine] to very accurately cut a couple of blanks for you out of, say, 24 gauge mild steel sheet. Do some calling around -- most shops have a minimum charge, so it may run some $.

Failing that or finding the $ too high, contact an HVAC shop or adult ed metal shop/welding shop; either of these places should be equipped with a suitable shear.

BTW, a couple of rare earth m*****S and you'll have a dandy locking f**p slate.

Good luck!
Message: Posted by: m.ruetz (Jan 6, 2005 09:25PM)
You can try using one of the those abrasive wheels mounted
to a table saw. The metal is probably too thin to use the
fence so you can use the sliding guide with the piece
securely clamped in place. Of course, the machine shop
route would work as well. But this soute may work for you
as well.

Of course, suitable eyewear is particularly important
for this sort of work.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Jan 7, 2005 10:04PM)
Thanks guys !

Leland, for the m*g**t*c aspect of it, the one slate has a m****t or two in it already, I forgot to mention that; so I'm set. Although, it could be a little stronger. Or did you have something else in mind ?
Anyway, I'm going to check for a machine shop around here.

BTW, I brought this to Pete (at Ronjos') attention, and he agreed - now they're working on house slate set, but it will be a different price point. He was willing to let me return the slates, postage paid even ! Heck of a guy. I decided to keep them though, they are nicely done otherwise.
Message: Posted by: magicsarge (Jan 8, 2005 12:25AM)
Just a word of warning, be careful using abrasive wheels mounted to table saws, firstly the size of blade and bore size must be correct for the machine you intend to fit to, and secondly the abrasive wheels have a maximum speed at which they should turn, this must not be exceeded as you run the risk of the wheel exploding like a hand grenade.
Hope your project goes well, sound very interesting,
Message: Posted by: drwilson (Mar 5, 2005 11:41AM)
A small outfit called Venture III made Dr. Q. Slates that locked mechanically, rather than m*gn**ically. If you can make an ordinary flap, do a search on "Dr. Q Spirit Slates" here at the Café.


Message: Posted by: Mystician (Mar 20, 2005 02:24AM)
I never did get that darn flap made. I'm still looking !
First mistake was buying aluminum, which isn't magnetic, duh.
So I bought a piece of sheet steel, 26GA, from Home Depot, and frankly, it's close, but still a little too heavy and thick. The magnet won't have much if any effect on it because of the weight.
I was also surprised that given the number of machine shops and sheet metal fabs in my area, none of them are really equipped to deal with thin gauges like this.
So far, I've even been at a loss at inquiring at online shops ! This is so frustrating, something so stupid that should be so easy is being a major obstacle, and all because somebody in Argentina can't measure for crap. :mad:

I also forgot I started this thread back in January and just recently wrote another in the review section, but what the hey, why not. Bazar has it comin' to 'em.
Has anyone ever even [i] heard [/i] of say, 30 gauge sheet steel ? That would probably be the thickness of the original flap.

Paul, it's kinda nice to be able to co-miserate, seeing that somebody else had the exact same problem. That's a shame, those are very nice looking slates and quite pricey too - no doubt due to the advanced mechanism.
What are the dimensions ? The Bazar de Magia slates' inner diameters are 7" x 11".
Message: Posted by: drwilson (Mar 22, 2005 09:52AM)

The inside dimensions of the Dr. Q. Spirit Slates (the slate part inside the frame) are 5-1/8 inches x 6-5/8 inches. The outer dimensions are 7-7/8 inches x 9-3/8 inches.


Message: Posted by: Mystician (Mar 23, 2005 09:30AM)
I was contacted by Quique Marduk, the owner of Bazar de Magia, and they are going to replace my slates (or flap, not sure which).
He also offered a refund, but I like their slates, I just want to them work the way I originally envisioned them to.
This makes me one happy vampire/warlock/whatever-the-heck-I-am.
Message: Posted by: massimo (Mar 24, 2005 10:52AM)
A good lesson learned. The first place you should always go is the manufacturer or dealer. Probably dealer then to the manufacturer. These people are in the business to sell product. When someone brings a problem to them, they want to fix it right away and also prevent any futre problems or unhappy customers.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Mar 24, 2005 01:47PM)
On 2005-03-24 11:52, massimo wrote:
A good lesson learned. The first place you should always go is the manufacturer or dealer. Probably dealer then to the manufacturer. These people are in the business to sell product. When someone brings a problem to them, they want to fix it right away and also prevent any futre problems or unhappy customers.
I did attempt to contact the maufacturer, just a few days after receiving the item, back in December. They never answered. That's why I decided to strike out on my own. In the recent post, they said they never got it. I sent another email, about 2 or 3 days ago. I still haven't received a reply as yet. I wonder if they got this one. I copied and pasted the email address they said to use, so they can't say it's the wrong address or a typo.
Message: Posted by: mkiger (Dec 11, 2006 06:09PM)
There are a few low tech things you might try. Use a cut off wheel on a moto-tool to rough out the flap without distorting the sheet. Clamp between a pair of angle irons and finish off with a file. Also, that small a piece is well within the range of a Sherline/Taig milling machine. If you know any machinists or welders ask them. Shim steel can be purchased at all kinds of thickness. Enco or MSC are cheap sources.
Message: Posted by: Starrpower (Dec 14, 2006 03:12PM)
I made mine for about $5. I bought two children's slates and cut the flap from an old cookie sheet. I had access to an industrial shear, but any school or metal shop, or even a heating/cooling company, can do it for you in about 30 seconds. I used slate paint and it works great. mine doesn't "lock" but I've never seen the need.