Hey guys,
I was just wondering what the difference between the M5 and the raven is, and why such a huge price difference?

thanks

M-5 is much more powerful. This is used for more than just vanishes. You can do much more, mine came with a book with over 70 effects (PK effects)

Wow! I'm definetly getting the M5 then , thanks!

It wouldn't hurt to read some other views of the M5 first.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=109

Either one has both advantages and disadvantages over the other.

With the raven, vanishes can be done a bit cleaner. However, the strength is not as strong as an M5. There are certain effects that will never be accomplished by the raven that can be done with the M5.

Yeah think before purchasing..m5 is much bigger and hard to conceal..raven is more portable..m5 is almost the size of a ciggarete box..if you are performing during summer you have to hide it in ur pants or strap it to ur knees..but it is very powerfull..actually you can get the magnet in some magnet dealers..not necessary magic store..because of its power it can damage watches and electronic things..u have to take care..i don't have raven but I heard the setup takes too much time!ok that's about wat I know..

M-5 is much more powerful, but if you´re searching for more "traditional" device the raven would be the choise!

I don't have the M5, but I will say that the Raven is dificult to set up.

I Think the Raven is pretty easy to set up, it just need a little time to get use to it. M5 is much more expensive too, but it´s worth it