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Grimm Regular user 134 Posts |
I've read a very basic explanation of how to perform the muscle pass. I was wondering if anyone had any tips on practicing this move. Naturally I don't want any revelation on how the trick is done, I know that part. I just needed some pointers on perfecting the technique.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Dan Watkins has a great site, http://www.coinvanish.com
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Trois Special user Myrtle Beach 594 Posts |
Use heavy coins to build up the muscle that propels the coin. This will train the muscle...You will get sore.lol
Not clever enough to come up with something orginal, or did I.
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GeorgeSantos Inner circle San Diego, CA 1106 Posts |
Try practicing with different sizes of objects like small coins, big coins, keys and the like so your hands will be trained to propel almost anything. Also, don't practice with only one hand, do it with both as it is a very useful utility move that allows productions, vanishes and the ever so classic "coin that falls up" (John Cornelius).
You can learn it in Dan Watkins' site in the foundations section.
"David Roth is the greatest coin manipulator in the entire world.."
-Dai Vernon "The Professor" I AM A FILIPINO MAGICIAN |
Grimm Regular user 134 Posts |
I've noticed that he mentions the dryness of your hands. I've got a background in rock climbing as well and was wondering it it would help to lightly chalk the palm of my hand while doing this move?
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
I've found that after practicing with a half dollar for awhile then switching to an english penny gets some interesting results. That penny flies!
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Eric Leclerc Inner circle Ottawa Ontario 1185 Posts |
What other objectsa have been known to be utilized with the muscle pass? I am having a hard time getting the knack of it...
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vilewarner New user Massachusetts 86 Posts |
Try placing the coin closer to your thumb than your regular CP, I find I can get more height that way.
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Grimm Regular user 134 Posts |
Thanks for the advice. I think I've got it, now just to practice practice practice.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
And then some more practice.
I find most people's learning curve quickens when they get feedback from a real human being. Find someone in your area willing to help. Horizontal moves are easier. When you go vertical avoid the temptation to move your hand up. and then more practice. Now where is my USA nickle. Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
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Sirakor Regular user 179 Posts |
I find that it's easier to muscle pass with sweaty/wet hands than with dry ones. If you can get the coin to flip over you've got the basic idea. The only ;-) thing you need to do now is to find the right spot in your hand, and to develop your muscles. Although painful and initially intimidating, I made the fastest progress by learning with a heavy, large coin with sharp edges. Practise with a not-so-soft silver dollar, once that starts popping an inch or two you're halfway there.
Regarding the position in the hand, for me the perfect muscle pass spot is on a line connecting the middle of my wrist and the base of my first finger. For both dollar and half dollar, it's on that line, but further towards the first finger and a little further towards the thumb than I would classic palm. Hope that makes sense. Once you got the basic idea, don't trap too much flesh/skin between your muscle and the coin as this will only slow the coin down. And obviously the quicker you can tense your muscles, the better. I get a better pop from tensing an almost relaxed hand, rather than one that is already semi-tense. Good luck, and remember that the hole/blister/callous you'll be getting is almost an integral part of the learning experience... |
Grimm Regular user 134 Posts |
I spent hours working on the move yesterday and I've got it to go about one to two inches. I'm using a Kennedy half dollar and my hand now hurst something terrible. It's nice and swollen and close to blistering and I couldn't be more proud.
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ralphgironda Loyal user 291 Posts |
Shoot Ogawa has some great ideas on the muscle pass on cultural exchange 1 dvd
worth checking out :) |
GeorgeSantos Inner circle San Diego, CA 1106 Posts |
Yes, I agree, Shoot Ogawa, Kainoa , Dan Sylvester and Curtis Kam have explored the possibilities of this move.
"David Roth is the greatest coin manipulator in the entire world.."
-Dai Vernon "The Professor" I AM A FILIPINO MAGICIAN |
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