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Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
I posted this in the "Polly Wants a Cracker" section, but I figured if I also posted it here I might double my chances of getting some good responses (it fits in both categories).
I'm doing a kid's show in a few days at a daycare/afterschool facility, and my closing routine is with the Chick Pan. I will be turning a child into a magician, but instead of making a sponge cake, he ends up doing better by making a "spongebob" (beanie baby). Today, one of the ladies I work with brought some baby chicks to work. She raises chickens, and bought these on the way to work. Their several days old, and she said she would gladly let me use one for the kid's show. Has anyone actually had experience using a chick pan with baby chicks? How long can they stay in the load? I could put air holes in the lid of the pan, but I wonder if he'll be ok for the half-hour duration, how much noise he will make. Any suggestions? Brian |
Tyler_Magician Special user 509 Posts |
You must put air holes in it for them to get fresh air. The last thing you want is to make a dead chick appear. Try putting the chick(s) in the pan for a half-hour and see what happens.
-Tyler |
Shaner316 Loyal user St. Catharines, ON. Canada 213 Posts |
Where would the best place be to put the holes as not to be too obvious to the audience?? And what is the best way of doing this?
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Doug Peters Special user I have a life, so I only have 591 Posts |
If you can keep track of the "front" of the chick-pan lid, then the "front" side of the feke is the best place for the a single (largish) hole (drilled from the outside). It will only be visible from the performer's perspective. And believe me, after the chick is removed from the pan, nobody is going to want to pay any attention to the pan any more (but put the lid back on just to be safe).
cheers, Doug
"if you have any answers, it's time to ask harder questions!"
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
A large nail size hole in the top of the handle (knob) works well with a dove pan. It doesn’t really look out of place there and will provide enough air. Never had any one question the hole, and your hand hides it while showing the lid anyway. (Should work the same with a chick pan.)
However, thirty minutes is a long time to keep any animal loaded, but they will survive if they’re able to get air and it doesn’t get to hot. If possible, I would load the chick into the pan from behind a table as you bring it out. Of course, if using an assistant, then they could load it before bringing it out. Never used a chick, I have used doves and a full size chicken oh. As far as the noise, I believe they’re like doves and seem to get still and quite when loaded into a dark place. If possible play around with it a day or so before. Good luck with the new chick. Tom
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WayneNZ Inner circle New Zealand 1013 Posts |
Load the chick just before You produce it.
Have the chick in a small cardboard box behind Your table. Depending on Your show set up, Im sure You can come up with a simple plan that will work. Loading a chick only takes a couple of seconds. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
My dove pans from Rings N Things came with four holes near the knob.
Bob Magic By Sander |
Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
Thanks for the tips.
I was thinking of putting several holes in the top of the lid, but I like Tom's idea of just one in the handle itself. As far as loading it, I don't see any problem with loading it just before the last routine begins. So the chick shouldn't be in the pan for more than 7 minutes. If it works well, I may just go buy myself a new pet hamster! I'll let you know how it goes. Brian |
Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
Get a white mouse insted.
Matt |
Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
I thought of that, but felt that the kids might have more of an aversion towards a "mouse" than towards a cute and cuddly hamster.
Why do you think a mouse would be better? Have you used mice in a kid's show? Brian This afternoon I'll be doing the show at a local Daycare, so my co-worker brought the baby chick in to work with her this morning. Wow, is that little guy ever noisy! I tried keeping him in my office, with the door closed, but the chirping was still heard by those outside my office, working in their cubicles. I took the chick to another room filled with books, and closed the door. Back in my office, even I heard the thing still chirping. Finally I placed a coat over the box he is in, to muffle the sound. He still has an airflow, but now we can't hear him so much. Going to be interesting to see how I get through a half-hour show with this guy chirping the whole time. Perhaps the kids will simply think it's a bird outside the window. Brian |
Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Somewhere on one of my video tapes, I have footage of Johnny Ace Palmer doing his routine, with the coke bottle production and the cups and balls (or chop cup), where he produces a live chick at the end (I think that Dick Clark is the host, so it might have been his talk show, from many years ago).
Anyhow, on it, you can hear the chick talking too early in the routine. The chick even walked the cup, and Johnny had to stop it from wandering. Pretty funny! Even the best of the best have rough moments. Cheep, cheep! - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
Well, the show is now over, and I think it went great. One of the workers videotaped it for me, so it will be a great opportunity to study the show, and make the necessary improvements.
This is the first time I've performed this particular show (mostly new effects), which I put together for the Daycare/Afterschool care audience. There were 20 kids there, and it was a free show. I know one of the guys who helps out there. They are always looking for new activities for the kids, so I offered to do a free show for them to give me a chance to try out my new show. After the show, the daycare operator gave me big "Thank You" card that the kids had made for me, and she put in $40.00 as a token of her appreciation. Very nice. The only drawback with the chick was the constant chirping throughout the 45 minute show. The kids were continually commenting on it. In the end, it didn't matter. They were just thrilled that a live chick had magically appeared to them. In fact, after using a rubber chicken earlier, along with Rocky the Raccoon, and some snakes in the Snake Can, the kids had a difficult time believing that the chick was actually real. They thought it was battery operated! Good time over all, but next time, if I use a live animal again, I'll get something quieter like a hamster -- or a snake! Thanks for all the tips. Brian |
NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
I find that if you rotate the pan throughout the show then the chicks will cook evenly throughout.
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gerard1973 Special user Michigan, U.S.A. 688 Posts |
Brian Lehr:
I would do the Chick Pan routine first but since you want to use it as a closer I would have the chick in ventilated box or a cage until you wanted to use it and then just load it into the pan using misdirection when you were ready to perform the effect.
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Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
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On 2006-04-02 10:53, gerard1973 wrote: Gerard, Thanks for the suggestion. Even though the show is now a distant memory (performed over a year ago), it is still a great memory. It's also the one and only time I plan on using a chick (other than the pretty two-legged ones!). My closer now mainly consists of the production of my adult Bearded Dragon from a Bunny Box. Other than the occasional scratching inside the box, he's ususally pretty quiet. Brian |
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