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Mark Hogan New user 86 Posts |
Dear All
As you may or may not know I specialise in psychological Mentalism/Hypnotism, and so normally stay away from card tricks... Does Kolossal Killer by Kenton rely on pyschological forces or slieght of hand, Id prefer pychological force routines and based on the above info could someone provide a review on Barrie Richards Theatre of the Mind or know any other strong material Thanks in Advance Mark |
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copterchris New user Austin, Texas 96 Posts |
Hi Mark,
Kolossal Killer doesn't actually rely on psychological forces OR sleight of hand. The spectator really can pick any card and you appear to have predicted the card and pull a card from your wallet to prove it. There are psychological aspects to it but these are to do with the presentation and impact on the spectator, rather than being absolutely necessary to the routine. It's difficult to describe without tipping the method! I personally think it is excellent and I have blown people away with it! Chris |
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Paradox Regular user 178 Posts |
I can recommend THEATER OF THE MIND completely & unhesitatingly. It's full of good stuff, including some straight magic effects given mental/psychological twists in presentation. There are several that I want to work on and use myself, & I'm sure you'll find many useable pieces yourself.
His philosophy of performing is also well worth reading. |
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christopher carter Special user 660 Posts |
While Kollossal Killer doesn't actually depend upon psychological forces, there are some great ideas for it in the manuscript and it's follow up to utilize them.
--Christopher Carter |
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Millard123 Regular user Millard Longman 174 Posts |
Theatre of the Mind is useless for performers like you that don't want to do magic tricks.
Many books by Kenton have the kind of material you seek. Also look for books by Banachek, Ford Kross, Orville Meyer, John Fisher, and Ormond McGill. Millard Longman |
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Gardinski New user UK 66 Posts |
As is so often the case, Kollossal Killer does not actually RELY upon a psychological force, but it can certainly be framed & presented in that way.
It is also a fabulous crutch to use whilst experimenting with the use of psychological forces, so if there is a particular technique which you are trying to incorporate (linguistic influence/suggestion) but are not yet 100% confident, you can certainly use that experimental technique to try to force a card, but the beauty of Kollossal Killer is that if your psychological force misses its intended target, you have plenty of foolproof 'outs' to cover any other eventuality. It is a very direct & powerful effect, and I would recommend it to anyone looking for a strong piece of mentalism which, once prepared, can be performed impromptu whenever the need arises. To answer your other query, there is absolutely no sleight of hand involved. Once you've grasped the concept, you'll be up and running within minutes. Hope this helps, Tony G. |
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
Millard wrote:
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Theatre of the Mind is useless for performers... that don't want to do magic tricks. I disagree. While Theatre of the Mind certainly has lots of "mental magic", it also features plenty of strong traditional mentalism. And for the performer who wants to present (apparently) psychological demonstrations, items such as Powers of Darkness II and Pencil Pusher are ideal. ... Doug
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Gardinski New user UK 66 Posts |
Like T A Water's MM&M, Theatre of the Mind is a great resource for sparking off unusual ideas in your own mind. Even if you don't use much of the material as it is written, it will help you to get you thinking in the right way. It's probably not 'essential reading' in the way that Annemann & Corinda are, but it is certainly interesting.
Tony G. |
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Mark Hogan New user 86 Posts |
Dear Millard/All
I am a big fan of Fords and Kentons work. And on your recommendations I will purchase KK imediately! I know Ford has expanded on Meyer, but can you provide some info on Fisher... Also, McGills Encyclopedia of Hypnotism is a fantastic resourse, however, since 80% of my work now revolves around NLP and waking Hypnosis and seemingly "Impromptu Mentalism" can you recommend a particular McGill booklet Thanks in Advance Mark |
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tim_mantis Regular user UK 117 Posts |
I couldn't agree more with Doug and Tony G., I have had people convinced I am in some way psychic (although i do not pose as one) after performing effects straight from Theatre of The Mind and effects modified from the text.
Tim |
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Necromancer Inner circle Chicago 3076 Posts |
Count me as another recommender of Richardson's Theater of the Mind. I am carrying one of his effects on my person this very moment -- it uses a NW, and it is stunning.
For more material in the strong mentalism/hypnotism camp, I concur on the Banacheck recommendation. Gene Urban also has a lovely NLP-based book test called "Body Talk" on one of the Desert Brainstorm tapes. And for a very strong pseudopsychometry demonstration with a graphology/psychology angle (among a wealth of other great effects), check out Becker's aptly named Stunners Plus.
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sandman690 Loyal user 230 Posts |
The material in Theater of the Mind is great. I would recommend it as a book to be had on any mentalists book shelf.
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irishmagic Regular user 135 Posts |
I use Kollossar Killer and love Theater of the Mind. Killer doesnt use any forces and I think it is the ultimate in impromptu mentalism. Theater of the Mind is one of my favorite books on Magic and Mentalism.
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Ruben Padilla Loyal user Narrative Strategist 206 Posts |
Buy Theater of the Mind.
Just buy it. It's great. Buy it. Trust us. Buy it. Signed, Barry Richardson. (Kidding) |
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CSMTREE Veteran user El Paso, Texas 318 Posts |
I think Theater of the Mind is awesome. It's rare to read a magic book that is hard to put down. I wanted to keep reading it finding out what was next. I feel Theater of the mind is not only a collection of "Workers", but easy to read and very doable stuff!
"Freedom is the best Magic of all"
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petrakos New user 55 Posts |
I am a huge fan of Theater of the Mind and can't say enough good things about. Richardson covers such a broad range of material and effects, that it's hard to believe that anybody couldn't easily find a half-dozen workers that could go into their rep. As for Kollosal Killer, do yourself a favor and also pick up Killer Konceptions to get some ideas about where KK can be taken!
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mindhunter Inner circle Upstate NY 2280 Posts |
IMO, BOTH are great works. KILLER is good on its own, but if not for the Konceptions follow up I wouldn't have been able to piece together my own version using just a few cards as outs in case my 60/40% percent-pshchological-force-card in-a-seperate window- ploy doesn't work. ANd those owning Konceptions know that the wallet can be handed out if requested thanks to the ind**.
Mr. Richardson's work is a great tome as well....
Bryn D. Reynolds, Author of:
"The Safwan Papers" & "The LOGAR Scrolls" Mentalism ebooks - PM any interest. My artwork: https://darkmountainarts.com |
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lhughes Regular user Canada 151 Posts |
I love Theater of the Mind. This was my favorite book in the past few years that I have bought and read. The book had some awesome effects ( I asterisked 24 of them as being particularly strong). Barry has also given you his presentation, which makes it particularly great to read.
The book has some great effects for a mentalist and a magician who does mentalist effects. Buy it!
Sleightly yours,
Lorne |
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yken New user 54 Posts |
In Killer Konceptions there are some ideas of using psychological forces. Although I like the original ,I am thinking of adding psychological force.
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MisterE21 Elite user Salt Lake City, UT 426 Posts |
As has been stated by many people, including Kenton, I think one of the greath strengths of Kollosal is the fact that is that it gives you the freedom to play with psychological forces and other mentalist bits that are not 100% sure to "hit." Because, if you've got Kollosal, you've always got an out..a VERY strong out...
Your EFFECT is only as good as its AFFECT.
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