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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts |
I realize that the prices that we all charge have many different variables, such as the areas we work, live animals or not, giveaways, experience, etc. But I am just curious about your rate for a school show versus your rate for a birthday show.
Here's a hypothetical: You charge $150 for a birthday show for 20 kids. You are now asked to do a school show for 100-200 kids. Assuming you can do pretty much your typical birthday show material (meaning no larger illusions or anything) for this school show, and the only extra thing you will need is to bring your amplifier, how much more would you charge? Again, I know there are many factors that can alter your price, but I am looking for answers based strictly on my hypothetical situation above. I guess what I'm trying to find out, is how much more money does the audience count and venue alone justify?
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
I charge $3 per head for my education shows with a minimum fee of $200 and I charge $200 for a kid's party. The small schools are paid for by the large shows so that my average fee is $500.
So I'd suggest charging around $400+ for your school show. |
Jim Snack Inner circle 1338 Posts |
Danny,
Here the advice I learned years ago form Denny Haney (Denny's Magic Shop in Baltimore).If you are charging $150 for a birthday party show, double it to $300 for a civic organization or school show to start. That's a good rule of thumb. After you have established yourself and polished your school show, incorporating strong educational themes, you will be ready to raise your fee for school shows. But not before you are ready. If you decide to really get into school shows full-time, learn from the pros. For more information about working schools, see http://www.magicsuccessseminar.com Bread a thread. Jim |
Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts |
Thanks very much guys.
Jim, that's about what I thought - doubling the rate. Right now, I have only done a couple small school shows (100 or so kids), and I have not quite doubled my rate, but somewhat close. I will check out the website, thanks.
You don't drown by falling in the water;
you drown by staying there. - Edwin Louis Cole |
Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
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On 2005-06-08 17:57, Jim Snack wrote: Danny - I follow advice similar to Jim's / Denny's. However, this is for my for-fun school shows. Like he said, for the educational themed shows (and once you have built a reputation), you can get more. Here are some of my rates for you: 30 minute birthday show (no illusions), up to 15 children, in home = $150 30 minute school show (no illusions), up to 350 students = $300 40 minute school show (no illusions), with a message, up to 350 students = $500 It is a regular occurance for schools of 150-200 students to pay these full rates for a show. So, one of my school shows (and it is not my highest priced school show), is 3 times the rate for a birthday show. (But then again, I also have birthday shows priced at more than $150 as well). Also, I will most likely be increasing my rates again in the next few months. Note - I choose to do smaller scale magic in my birthday shows, as opposed to my other public and school shows. - Donald P.S. Jim, how do you "bread a thread?"
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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James Munton Inner circle Dallas, TX 1199 Posts |
Most magicians on the East Coast (Virginia to Rhode Island) charge between $500 and $2,000 for school shows.
The fee has nothing to do with how much you charge for your birthday parties. You are selling your show to an entirely different market, even if the actual show is similar. The fee has nothing to do with whether or not you have live animals or if you have large illusions. There is a very high priced mime act who has no props at all. Schools and PTAs have a set annual budget and will pay you as much as they can if they know you have a good act. Shows with an educational theme are easier to sell. It doesn't matter how many kids are in the audience. The small private schools with 150 kids often have more money to spend than large public schools with 600 kids. School shows are a competitive market. You can make good money, but you need to have a great show or you won't get asked back and word will get round. Best, James |
Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
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On 2005-06-08 17:55, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote: What if a kid has two heads (just a thought)? -Gideon
You know you are a magician when you have boxes full of lecture notes you have never read, but still are excited about going out and buying more.
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BIlly James Special user 991 Posts |
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On 2005-06-09 01:50, SwissKid 52 wrote: In this case you would either charge double - or - blindfold one of the heads. |
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