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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
Hey guys,
I'm just fishing for some ideas... I have been playing with Expansion of Texture for the last few days and am having trouble coming up with presentation ideas. I have tried a magical pickpocket plot, but it seems too convaluted to me. How do you guys present this effect? Do you stay with just the two phases out of Bobo or do you add to it? What kind of plots do you use? Thanks, Richard |
phread Elite user md 486 Posts |
...try david roth...
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Nicholas young Regular user Belgium 114 Posts |
I think this effect will play better with little to no script, or perhaps part of a routine with a larger premise. Personally I use two sentances throughout the whole effect and they merely emphasize the conditions, I enjoy it and it gets great reactions.
I watched some videos of the effect online and it mostly seemed way to cluttered with useless patter... Good Luck! |
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
The routine you mention is one that comes straight out of Bobo, and is a classic. You can see it in a four phase routine by me, and a five phase routine by Roth on the New York Coin Magic Seminar Dvds vol 2,3, or 4 (the copper silver set) . You might also want to note the novel application of JW grip during one of the phases in my routine.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Further to the very solid and mature references indicated by the Dr Rubinstein, you should remain aware that the routine predated Bobo and that there are very smart variants by late famous magicians (naturally Robert Houdin and Dai Vernon) but a diabolical variant by L'Homme Masqué.
Years ago, the British magician Terry Guyatt also published a very well designed version on his VHS
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
If you're talking about performing the original method, as performed by L'Homme Masque, the method almost demands a certain type of presentation. The strength of that method is that the spectator has to agree that the coins are held in the hank, and that the hank is held in his hands. It's a real "test conditions" sort of thing, and it's a natural for a challenge sort of presentation. Sachs suggested that it be presented as a "test of strength", almost a "tug of war" with the volunteer.
The more modern handlings, (i.e. the Vernon routine that appears in Bobo's) are a bit more flexible in their presentations, and you don't have to challenge the audience as much. This trick does seem to be all about the trick, though, rather than being about something else, if that makes sense. Most of the presentations I've seen follow the idea of "expanding the texture" of the hank, to allow the coins to be removed. Kind of an odd effect, sort of a "tight-focus" penetration. If your method allows you to give the spectator a free choice of which coin to remove, that's a good thing to emphasize, since the spectator seldom gets to control the outcome in coin magic.
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Nicholas young Regular user Belgium 114 Posts |
Curtis, I must have missed the effect in the Sachs book, will look it up!
Just to clarify: EOT is placing a coin inside of handkerchief, where as taking a coin out of a handkerchief is commonly referred to as another effect, would I be right by thinking this? Or do both effects go hand in hand so much they are seen as one... Presentation wise I think it very much depends on ones style of performing, if you are all about emphasizing conditions (a la Tamariz) then I would make full use of it here, possibly even using feints and cancelling methods through multiple phases, the free choice of coin is a perfect for this. I can see how this approach would naturally lead to a challenge type of situation, but I would not take this too far as the follow up effect (the actual EOT) normally happens in the hands of the spectator... Personally my style is much more of having a premise, and using magic to get it across. Whether it be said through words, have magic speak for itself, or acted out with use of a silent script. I would still use feints etc but at a much more subtle level, and I want to avoid challenging my audience at all costs. This effect is not as easy for this type of approach, and you could only see how this works for me by seeing it in the context of my performing personality. Even though my script only consists of two sentences, which speak about the conditions, I am very aware of the underlying premise, and this makes all the difference in the world, even though I mention very little about it in actual words. I guess my point is that in order to express a premise/presentation we don't necessarily have to say tell long stories about "the robber who we met last week"... I also think when one has not defined their character yet it becomes even more tough. In most cases, I think less is more, I know by most performances I saw online that they would gain a lot from just being quiet for most part. Anyways I am new to writing out my thoughts, I hope this doesn't end up as a confusing mumbo jumbo type of thing. Thanks for all the references and food for thought. |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Using a TUC adds some new dimentions to this effect, including swapping in or out of the gaff. Check out "TUC Appreciation"
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