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teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts 
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AGAIN IMVHO A lot of the effects talked about in this section are more impromptu trickiness and cleverness than magic Most debates on the subject concentrate on whether an effect is really impromptu I would like to hear peoples opinions on Impromptu meaning something unexpected or surprising happens without a lot of 'get ready' being SEEN by the SPECTATOR Three of my favourites are Lennart Green's Top Shot Greg Wilson's Pen Work Troy Hooser holds a coin in French Drop and turns his hand over into a finger palm (Ramsey Subtlety ?) (Vol 3) What is your favourite bit of impromptu that is really magical? Cheers TJ 
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Matt Morell Loyal user Norwich, CT. 257 Posts
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Chevrie's Finger thru Bill is pretty cool.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 05:58, teejay wrote: This has always been a fine point with me too. Is it defined as "impromptu" if it is 100% on the spot , no prep., or can you also call it impromptu if it only APPEARS that way to the spec, who may not be aware of your prep, so it ends up looking like you just performed on the spot. In other words, are you a purist in your definition, or do you allow a little room for some concessions?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 10:04, daffydoug wrote: You are absolutely right I see from your footnote where you are coming from LOL What I was looking for was some fun AND perhaps some new to me (or old) efffects that have that touch of real magic about them IMVHO A card manipulator shows his hand empty back and front then produces card after card at his fingertips The spectator is amazed but it seems impromptu to him Immediacy and WOW factors are more important than strict definitions for the sake of this thread LOL TJ :) |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts
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Here are some that are totally impromptu and others that appear impromptu and get a good reactions for me:
"Ghost Bills" - Mayne. "Winged Silver" w/ quarters and sometimes a [ - Roth. "Cigarama" - Garcia/Chanin. Unfortunately, what seems magical to one person, and gets that WOW, may not with another. |
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miky Regular user 140 Posts
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Interesting you should mention Ghost Bills, Jaz. Maybe it's the way I do it, but I have never got much of a WOW for this effect. I get a much stronger response with a pen or pencil through a bill rather than a bill through a bill.
The best totally impromptu pen or pencil through bill effects are Misleading Misled and Real Pen-etration by Alan Rorrison -- they're impromptu versions of the two phases in Timothy Wenk's Misled. Dan Harlan's pencil through bill is also good if spectators are all around you. |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 12:10, Jaz wrote: And that is the rub. It's unpredictable..like the times I've done some theatre productions. We do the play the same way EVERY night...and some times they laugh at certain lines...and the next night a diferent audience does NOT laugh at those lines. You just have no way of predicting what will fly from night to night, although you wish to god you could. Same thing with amazement. What amazes one will not neccesarily amaze another.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts
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Milky,
You're right about "Ghost Bills". Those I've done it for often giggle rather than stepping back with awe, but that's cool too. You mention impromptu pen/pencil thru borrowed bill. This is one I also do, w/ a rip at the end, and get stunned responses (sometimes). Others are a Coin to Pen Cap routine, Traveling Cash and Hanging Coins w/ quarters. I've had people get weirded out doing simple effects like having a quarter jump from hand to hand, basic cigarette vanishes and a variation of Bobo's "Just Pretend". At a wedding reception I was just fooling around w/ an ITR, no act, just goofing. A lady saw a match book float up from the table, pushed her chair back w/ mouth and eyes wide open yelling, "Oh my God!". If her husband didn't catch her she would have fell off the chair. Daff, It often takes just one good audience member to set everyone else off. Best, |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts
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You mean like David or John on the L&l shoots?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts
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You know, there was a discussion on this,
the REAL impromptu, the 100% purist real impromptu, is doing it without any set routine work, no preparation before. non? so you'd be basically ad libbing. . i.e. there is no "real" impromptu as we speak.. but that's just IMO, and there IS a definite category called impromptu.. its just.. not really all that impromptu. ? .. haha |
Parson Smith Inner circle 1937 Posts
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Memory work?
Peace, Parson
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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 05:58, teejay wrote: What you are describing is Geoff Latta's "French Pop" vanish. He (Geoff) describes the correct way to do it on the LVMI convention video. |
ofrmagic Loyal user 202 Posts
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