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aznmagicguy New user 8 Posts |
I have the El Duco ring flight and I JUST got it.. and I was practicing it and the "special thing" snapped. is there any way to fix it?
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paymerich Special user Norwalk, CT 546 Posts |
You need to "El sendo" it back for a replacement ..
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
Now imagine it snapping in performance with someones valuable ring. This trick should be banned along with watch steals.
Miguel Rangel
"Excellence is not a single act; it's a habit" Shaq quoting Aristotle after winning NBA MVP.
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Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
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On 2005-09-22 16:16, elmago wrote: I take it you've never seen the reaction from either? Not to troll, but there are ways to perform ring flight so that you don't send the ring flying (see David Acer's work in The Magic Menu) and there are now even methods that don't have this risk (as Pete Biro will happily let you know!). Oh, and btw, watch steals when done correctly will probably garner one of the loudest and strongest reactions in performance so I wouldn't just discredit them so quickly!
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
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On 2005-09-22 23:32, alym wrote: It's brilliant. |
Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
It sure is!!
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
Which book is it in? I only have Natural Selections 1.
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Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
It's in the magic menu 1-5
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
No way! I have to go look it up now. Thanks everyone.
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Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
You're very welcome.
It's an awesome routine that gives a reason for doing ring flight etc. To be honest though I don't use it in my walkaround stuff yet, I have been meaning to get it going but old habits die hard... I want it perfect before it goes into my repertoire.
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
Hypothetically speaking , lets say I perform ring flight or do a watch steal 99 times and get the best reactions ever. On the 100th time, something breaks, gets scratched, broken, damaged, lost, or I'm accused of it even though it is not my fault, IT IS NOT WORTH IT.
I am of the opinion that something will always go wrong. I do not care who is doing the magic. No matter how much you practice, something will always go wrong. In most cases, when I blow a trick, I could usually recover and if I cant, no big deal. When you risk it with someones valuable object, there is no recovery, only apologies. I have heard too many stories and have seen it happen. There are plenty of other tricks to do that get a good reaction. Miguel Rangel
"Excellence is not a single act; it's a habit" Shaq quoting Aristotle after winning NBA MVP.
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
One more thing, I experiment with watch steals and got mixed reactions. Some were over the top, and some set a feeling of uncomfortablness. Here is why:
It is pyscological. Lay people do not know what magicians know. It its the same reason a lion or tiger will not attack his trainer. They are not sure what the trainer is capable of or how strong he is. If they knew, the trainer would be dead. When you do a watch steal, lay people think that if you can do that, what else can you do? That is an unsettling feeling that they can be taken so easily. I freaked out a guy once. Since he was a friend, I practically had to explain it to him so he could feel OK about it. He believe that the potential for crime was there. He did not realize that the effect can only be done with invasive misdirection. Watch steals do not automatically get great reactions. Miguel Rangel
"Excellence is not a single act; it's a habit" Shaq quoting Aristotle after winning NBA MVP.
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
I don't see a very quick reset for Acer's transposition ring flight in a restaurant. It's VERY good though. It's probably not too hard to reset it, I dunno.
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Billy Bo Special user 627 Posts |
Just because it might go wrong 1 in a 100 times dos'nt mean don't do it. iwhile making a spectators card fly out the deck it could fly too hard lodge in there eye and blind them for life. I still do it though
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Vibono Magic Special user Växjö,Sweden 647 Posts |
I think that El Duco has a warrentee on his ringflight.
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Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
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On 2005-09-26 13:17, elmago wrote: Miguel: It really could be the way you present the steal. I strongly suggest watching videos by Chappy Brazil or by Nick Byrd and James Coats to see their spectator management with the steal. I've probably done a few hundred steals now and have never had a so-called bad reaction (even after being caught). The reveal has a lot to do with how the effect goes over and if you smile while performing and set up good repoire with your audience, they won't see it as crime, but rather as a mystery. Hope this helps! a.
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
Steve D. Just wait till you blind him. Then what are you going to say? I do not think he will love magicians anymore.
The point is that 100th time has devastating results to cause more harm than good. I can go down the list of people who think just like you do and what has happened to their careers because of the "not me" attitude. I have witnessed these time bombs go off with my own eyes! Not pretty. As far as the watch steals, I did get good reactions and knew how to present it. The friend I mentioned was one case, and in my opinion, one too many. That is not the sole reason why I stopped doing it. Ive already stated why. BTW, I did watch those videos. I do not like to live my life where there is no recovery, only apologies. Good luck guys! Miguel Rangel Do me a favor; post your disaster story when you do get sued, or get blamed for destroying something so meaningful to a person you met 5 minutes ago.
"Excellence is not a single act; it's a habit" Shaq quoting Aristotle after winning NBA MVP.
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magicmoment New user Down Under Australia 54 Posts |
I do not like to live my life where there is no recovery, only apologies.
Good luck guys! Sounds like there might be no magic that could be safe, I mean you could ask someone to pick a card and they get a paper cut that leads to death because they are haemophiliac! What do you say after that? Point is interacting with people these days can be dangerous since most of the Western legal systems are so stringent with their laws for protecting us, so we just have to be carefull as performers and choose our material wisely. However, if you perform as a professional and make a living off magic just like any profession you can cause damage to peoples goods and you might have to fork out and pay for the goods. We take the good with the bad. |
Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
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On 2005-09-22 16:16, elmago wrote: Why, when this "thing" snaps does it break the ring?? Personally I think both watch steal and ring flight are very good, and should not be taken off the market. Now I don't have the ring flight, and I guess I don't know how it works anymore. I thought you just took some IT and put it on. Why would it be when the "thing" (whatever that is) snaps, the ring would break??? |
Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Oh, ok. I thought the ring flight is when you borrow a persons ring, and make it float!! lol. That is a cool effect. I don't know how its done, so I have nothing to say.
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