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Elknase New user 50 Posts |
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Aikido techniques are full of misdirection and moves with a similar psychology to the practice of magic Deception was always a part of many martial arts schools - unfortunately, a lot of self-deception. Many old dogs of Karate, Aikido or whatever lull themselves into an awe of invincibility being totally unrealistic. And don't tell me stories about those "masters" never testing their allegations taking part in a K1 fight because the live in a dreamworld. Have you ever seen an Aikido-ka fighting against a professional wrestler? Do you wonder why it never happens to be seen? Maybe because a true Aikido sensei has no need to proof his invincibility and is following the "art of peace" or maybe because the wrestler would stick him into the ground before "the magic of ki" happens? Traditional martial arts teach a lot of nonsense and many are religion-like where disciples listen in awe to the stories of invincible masters with powers they want to acheive but sacrifice half a lifetime to find out if such powers exist. Given they find out they don't, many begin to delude themselves into thinking they do because the question "What were all this years for?" hurts too much. One thing for sure: Aikido teaches you to relax and focus your concentration (energy). So does meditiation where you concentrate on hara. So does self-hypnosis where you direct the creation of pictures and sensations. However, meditation in whatever form is learning yourself. Relaxation also is a very good point and works for sure to release and dissolve anxiety. Many people are not aware of how they use their body against their health. Posture and relaxation have a dramatic effect to your emotional and mental state. Many people suffer migraine because they never learned to relax but take drugs instead. Life is short but maybe you get an unbendable arm once or twice. ;) Best Regards, -Elknase |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Elknase, you made some excellent points in your post on relaxation, meditation and focusing.
I'd like to add that every martial artist has SOME delusions about him or herself. In 1968 at the Illinois Akido Club, we DID have a fellow come into the dojo who played that game. He was number one in Illinois in collegiate heavyweight wrestling and a golden gloves boxer. He also had a black belt in Ju-jitsu and was well known in the neighborhood as a street tough. Takahashi Sensei generally did not take challenges, but that day, I guess, was an exception. That young man, who was all of six feet and about 196lb, in his wrestling togs, NOT in a do-gi I hasten to add, wound up with one broken femur (largest bone in the body), one broken collarbone, a concussion, both wrists broken, both shoulders dislocated and a severely sprained back. The total time from start to finish was under twenty SECONDS. I was there. Takahashi Sensei was about 62 years old, stood about 5'4" tall and if he weighed over 100lb, I would be surprised. He held a Rokudan from Uyeshiba, himself. Oh, and by the way, the match happened on the mats. NOT on a hard floor. He was nice until the kid tried for an eye gouge. That's when things started breaking. NONE of them on Sensei. Just FYI. Not ALL martial artists are phonies. But some DO have some serious fantasies about being invincible, I agree. Even oversized champions. Respectfully, Lee Darrow, C.H.
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kris attard Elite user Malta 437 Posts |
Nice story, Lee.I can understand Elknase's scepticism, it is all too easy to cultivate nowadays because there is so much BS out there in the martial arts world. Example being dojos that sign up students for a stipulated period of time by which time the student is assured of gaining a dan grade. I have trained shotokan karate and some aikido, and although I am as open-minded as the next man, I still think there is nothing like tradition-style training in martial arts. Uyeshiba's work has contributed immensely not only to martial arts.
AI also agree with the previous comment that NLP has lifted much stuff from esoteric traditions. Ironically, because NLP is more often than not taught in a logical 'left-brained' way, most of the stuff still ends up with an essential ingredient missing. I think we should not let the fact that there is a lot of baloney out there trick us into assuming that there are not genuine 'unusual' abilities that can be learnt. The mistake also is to think that anyone who has such abilities have some desire to prove them. If they are genuine, then in all likelihood, they would run a mile before falling into the 'let-me-prove-it-for-you' trap. To do this, one has to link with the part of the psyche we know as the Ego, and the logical left brain, neither of which are the parts of us that can tap into our inner potential. On the contrary, in fact. I personally know people who have genuine ability to see things at a distance and see this time and time again, beyond any shadow of doubt, yet they shy from publicity or, the worst of all, any desire of proving anything to anyone. Master-Mind, I'm interested to in the physical explanation of how a strong man can fail to bend someone's elbow purely because of angle dynamics, keeping in mind that there is no force being exerted through the arm in this exercise. |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
If you think Martial Arts are deluding themselves, I suggest you find your nearest Brazilian Jiujitsu Academy and say it straight to the face of the Black Belts there...
Or your nearest Filipino Knifefighting School (whatever style).... Or your nearest Thai Kickboxing/Muay Thai School... Find out the truth yourself...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Elknase New user 50 Posts |
Thanks for the suggestions. I hope you suggest me to learn all of them. Because with Brazilian Jiujitsu only, I'm probably in bad shape against an experienced Muay Thai fighter. If I only learn Filipino Knifefighting or Muay Thai, I might be in bad shape against a Brazilian Jiujitsu person if taken to the ground.
MANY (not all) Martial Artists delude themselves into thinking that their art is the ultimate solution to the problem of physical conflict. If you don't practice free-fight or realistic sparring against many different opponents with different fighting-styles, it is likely that you live in a dream-world. I found Geoff Thompsons book "Watch my back" an interesting read and a great self-defence reality check. However, I respect all martial arts, because one can learn from all of them. Best Regards, -Elknase |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Gentlebeings, this isn't a martial arts forum and, as a retired Sandan in Shorin-ryu, with over 6 years in Kodokan Judo, four years in Hombu Aikido, two years in Tenshin-Shinyo Jujitsu as well as about seven years as a stick-jock in the Society for Creative Anachronism, I can say, without a doubt, that the person matters more than the style when the fight comes to the real world as opposed to the mat or the lists or the ring.
You can't "tap out" in a real fight. You can't call a break. And your opponent won't go to a neutral corner while the referee counts to ten over you - he will, most likely, keep pounding on you until you stop moving at all - or stop breathing. And in a dojo, kwoon or gym, you don't have things that you have in the real world - like traffic, open doors, tableware, hot coffee, books, tablecloths, pens, keys, water bottles, pocket change, tables, chairs, brooms, mops, slippery floors, gravel, sand, mud, ice and snow, puddles, small dogs, children, big dogs, little old ladies, fences, gates, locked doors, radio aerials, bicycles, rollerbladers, skateboarders or curbs to deal with. And most of the places that teach hand fighting don't even touch on these things. And they, in my professional opinion as a former teacher OF these things, SHOULD. However, we are not here to argue styles, Ryu, Jitsu or Waza, but to discuss hypnosis. So let's get back on topic, shall we? :D Lee Darrow, C.H.
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