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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
Lately I've been reading here at The Café on different rabbit vanishes and appearances. I decided that I like the Rabbit Wringer and the Bunny Bucket since they can both be used as a vanish effect while involving a spectator. After doing some searches I found a few different opinions on each, but haven't found a comparison between the two.
Does anyone have either/or? I'm curious if anyone prefers one over the other. If you have the rabbit wringer, do you transform the 'flat' rabbit back to a regular rabbit before the close of your show? Are the designs for a standard rabbit or dwarfs? Thanks for anything that you can offer on this topic.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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allan31 Regular user everywhere 182 Posts |
Hi !
I have a wringer from Doug Malloy and I use it with a parrot! It's really a great prop. It's a member of the audience which turns the wheel for a lot of fun when the flat parrot is coming out. Regards, allan |
KyletheGreat Special user Georgia 560 Posts |
I have the Daytona Rabbit Wringer but have used both the Daytona and Mak Magic version...The Daytona Rabbit Wringer is GREAT...perfect for larger rabbits as opposed to the somewhat size limit of the Mak magic version.
After the rabbit is flattened...I always throw her back into the box after showing it empty, and then I grab a balloon pump...then I pump the pump into the top of the box and voila! Pull her out back to normal (and much cleaner to) steamed and pressed! The bunny buckets are also great. It really depends on what you want to do with the apparatus...if you want to do a cool visual stunt with your bunny, then the Wringer is the way to go...if you want to just make the bunny disappear or reappear, then I would go with the bunny bucket. |
WayneNZ Inner circle New Zealand 1013 Posts |
I use them both together, they make a nice combination
effect. But You need 2 rabbits to pull it off, or some slick backstage work. |
RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
I do not own a rabbit wringer and was just curious. Do you ever find the audience reaction negative to the idea that you are flattening (maybe harming)a rabbit?
Personally, I can see the humour in it, but I was just wondering does the audience always get it. Thanks, Rob |
Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
I think that if you 'restore' the flat rabbit the audience will be fine.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I have two wringers and recovery boxes. Yes, you need two rabbits. I stopped using them because one of my dwarfs got twice as large as the other one.
The kid said, "Look it even bigger!" Like Kye above I pumped him up and my line was, "I must have put to much air in him!" I have several recovery boxes (Appearance of a rabbit)
They all work the same way, a rabbit appears. Vanishing Boxes:
Dennis Michael
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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
Den, do you worry about using the same principal for the vanish and restoration? I understand that the patter, excitement and misdirection are the key to a winning combination, but I've had arguments with myself over using two 'box's' with the same type of gimmick.
For example one box might have black art, while the other is a mirror box. Is this a concern, or am I 'over thinking' my prop usage? That was a good line about 'putting to much air in him'; its hard to keep both rabbits the same size and that line gives you an out.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
You're thinking like a magician, and not like a lay person. I also don't do them all in one show.
If I use the rabbit wringer to flatten the rabbit I use HARE Rejuvinator to make him whole again, same box. As for disappear and reappear via black art. Only us users of magic really understand those principals.
Dennis Michael
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nucinud Inner circle New York, New York 1298 Posts |
As I posted in Double Dare You:
This handling is less painful for younger children. Sometimes when kids see a live rabbit put into a box and it comes out flat, they think you killed the bunny. I have seen kids cry at this. You have upset them and even if you bring the rabbit back in one piece, they will not trust you. Place your bunny into the special compartment before the show. Bring the box out. Show the box as empty by removing the front rollers. Lift the top, the audience will not see the bunny due to the mirror. They will see an empty box. Put one hand on top and the other on the bottom. The mirror will make it appear that the audience is seeing both hands. Close the box top and replace the front rollers. Take out a blank piece of paper and marker. Ask the audience, what is a magician famous for making appear? Most kids will yell out, A RABBIT. Right. Draw a rabbit on the blank paper. It can be a cartoon or silly stick figure, etc. Then ask the audience, what color should the rabbit be? Use magicians choice, my rabbit was brown. With all the kids yelling out colors, I would say, BROWN? I heard brown, Okay, I will make it brown. Of course if you rabbit is white, you can use the flat rabbit that comes with unit. Take the drawing and put into the front rollers. Turn the crank and the drawing is gone. Open the top and take out the Rabbit. Place the box away from the kids, so they won’t look inside.
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
Nucinud,
A magician can do effects, like a rabbit wringer, without kids crying about it. A magician who is going to perform this should be well versed in comedic acting. If a magician doesn't know how to play it up for comedy, it's no wonder that some kids are crying. Sure, some kids will cry over anything, but that's probably because of a health issue, more than it is about misinterpreting something in a show. I do a gag where I accidently pull a rabbits foot off, but the gag gets laughter, never tears. |
magicleland Regular user 197 Posts |
I own both a Mak rabbit wringer and a mak duck bucket. The rabbit wringer gets a better reaction but the Duck bucket is great with adults. It can be used to decompress the rabbit from the wringer.
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GlassMagicCo New user Midland, TX 11 Posts |
Wow, I must really be making those kids cry....I took a picture of the rabbit I use in my wringer and I print it on a large piece of flash paper for every show (kind of tricky to keep from getting jammed in the printer, I would be glad to explain how to do this for anyone that is interested). So, not only do I wring out the poor critter but I also light him on fire which of course vanishes him into oblivion. Alas, I do bring him back and have never had a single child or adult cry but often get some pretty powerful reactions which usually come off as comedic. I have received many comments of approval performing this effect.
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raywitko Special user western Pa 527 Posts |
I use a chicken in the rabbit wringer and roll out a rubber chicken. I have the rubber chicken feet hanging out of wringer facing away from audience. I put live chicken in, close the lid, and turn wringer around. When audience see feet hanging out they start laughing. Then I roll out rubber chicken, they really respond. I have a flip over wringer so when I flip to show empty a bunch of feathers fall out. I then put rubber chicken and some of the feathers in the bucket and reproduce live chicken. And yes you need two to make it easier.
Ray
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Shawn D Elite user Hughson,Ca 465 Posts |
I have used the coloring book with the rabbit wringer. I had blank pages,made drawing,had them colored then tore out one page (that I put in of coure) of a rabbit then put it in the wringer and cranked it in and out came a live rabbit.
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Mumblemore Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I agree that you have to be careful with the kiddies. If you vanish, you have to reappear the rabbit, or they get upset. I stick to the appearance and as a finale, and my favorite to date is the Rabbit Wringer. In order to try to at least pay homage to the "rabbit from hat" I'm supposed to produce, I pull out a folding hat with the flat felt rabbit in it. I then coach a volunteer to sit on the hat, thus squashing and flattening the rabbit, which I "produce," put through the ringer, and restore as the real rabbit. Seems to work well, and keeps the rabbit from having to spend time in bags, servantes, etc. The rabbit needs a firm footing (solid floor) or she gets nervous. I did just visit Magic Inc and picked up an apparatus for hats that Frances Marshall pioneered and do look forward to using it as a means of creating an area at the bottom of the hat where presumably the rabbit can rest (assuming she can get enough air). I'll let you know how that one works out . ..
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