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rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
I just bought this. I can't figure out how to open the thing! It didn't say anything about it in the instructions. If I don't get a response today I'll call the magic shop where I bought it, but I was hoping to practice with it tonight and the owner of the store has gone out to a performance.
Anybody have a clue? Could you PM me, please? I can hold it in a certain way (trying to avoid exposure here), thump it in a certain place, and watch it open then close quickly. So I know it will work when I figure out how to do it. |
Jay Newton New user 47 Posts |
Did you say it is magnetic? Did you try using another magnet's opposite pole?
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rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
Tried that. I can't say why it didn't work without exposure.
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Rik,
If it is similar to Bob Swadling's Double Deception coin you open it with another ma-----c coin so their pole repell. |
Jay Newton New user 47 Posts |
He just said that does not work.
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rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
Nope, I just tried again, that won't work. The instructions were kind of lame, but I just figured out a very nice effect similar to what the instructions said. Imagine this, I just tried it on myself.
The magician tells the spectator to hold a card in their hand. Atop the card are two half dollars overlapping each other. The spectator is told to place the card crosswise across the hand and hold it in his fingers so that the card is not touching the palm of the hand. Of course the magician demonstrates it and it's a lot easier to show than to write. The magician points to the coins telling the spectator to watch the coins closely. He taps the card. One of the two coins vanishes before his eyes and the specator feels the coin fall into his palm! Of course everything is examinable, everything is in the spectator's hand. I got it open but I'm sure it's not how they want me to. I have to hold the coin in a particularly awkward way and then thump the coin until the gaffed part comes free and the pad of my finger prevents it from closing again all the way. |
Blenderboy New user Texas 55 Posts |
I got a Tango Eisenhower flipper a while back. The darn thing's rubber bands were melted so it wouldn't open. I had to take it apart which wasn't exaclty easy. They give you 2 lousy replacement rubber bands and one promptly broke. It really needs to be double-banded and I can't find the bigger bands, so the thing has been sitting worthless on a shelf ever since.
I got a quarter flipper from Tango with the same problem. I don't know if the shipping through the equator results in melted bands, but that was the problem with both of my Tango flippers. Now I only go with Schoolcraft's flippers. More expensive, but worth it. |
Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
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On 2005-11-17 16:26, rikbrooks wrote: That is why I hated flipper coins and wanted nothing to do with them until Jamie Schoolcraft introduced me to his design that opens simply by picking it up by its edges. I have heard that Tango Flippers are rediculously hard to open, though I have not seen one myself. |
rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
Don, I bought the fipper coin because one of the tricks that I really wanted to do in your dvd calls for it. But this flipper won't work because if I lay it in the spectator's hand it will automatically close.
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Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
Rik,
Go back and watch the Schoolcraft interview on my DVD. In that interivew Jamie goes over why his coin is different than traditional Flipper coins. You need those characteristics to do my routine. The coin needs to lay open flat under its own weight and to open simply by lifting it. A regular flipper does not do these things. Dan |
Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
The Schoolcraft interview on Dan's DVD is great. Seeing jamie explain things let's yous ee how much though was put into it.
I also hated flippers. But, Bob Kohler turned me onto Dan's "Four Coins, Their Hands" routine and Jamie's flipper and he was right. The coin is worth twice what Jamie charges.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Could someone please explain to me what a flipper coin is? Ive been dieing to know. Is it just a gaff coin that flips upwards like a mucsle pass without the hard work? that's what it sounds like.
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Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
Magicman, it is not. It is a coin that can flip open to appear as two, or flip closed to appear as one.
I am not going to get into much more detail than that, but you can find a fully exposed view of the Schoolcraft flipper by visiting http://www.bobkohlermagic.com |
rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
Dan, thanks for reminding me to watch the interview. I had stopped watching your DVD until I could go out and get a flipper coin so I could follow along with you. Had I just watched the whole thing to start I would have known that the one that I bought was not the one that I wanted. (sigh)
The one that I bought by Tango is the same one that you sold on Ebay because you could find no use for it. However, you did mention how to seperate it, do a little flippy move and be real fast. My thumpy move is better. I've found one use for it besides the coin through card. I may do another. It makes a decent coins across. Being magnetic I have no problem letting a spectator hold it - although that's not normally a thing that I do. I'll keep it because I'm stuck with it. Eventually I'll find out how to buy a Schoolcraft coin and I'll probably save this one for one of those pocket tricks that I carry around just for fun. Maybe. |
mikejorden Loyal user 222 Posts |
Everyone seems to agree - the quality of the Tango Bands is very poor. Perhaps if we all shout loud enough they will do something about it.
I have just aquired a "new" Tango Eisenhower flipper & agree with everything Blenderboy says. However I have some other bands (supplied by Todd Lassen)so I changed the band (I know it's a pain) and now the flipper works perfectly. I also found another advantage in the Tango Eisenhower flipper in that the flipper part is hollow behind. I have glued magnets in this space and so now I have a magnetic flipper which is opening all sorts of possibilities which I'm still playing with together with a shim Slippery Sam |
evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
Okay, I just went to Bob Kohler's website and saw the Kennedy Flipper Coin by Schoolcraft Coins. I want to get this. My question is this - can I achieve the same effect as the Double Deception by Swadling? I am not an experienced coin worker but I'm darn interested to do the effect described by Bob Swadling's DD. Again, I also read that for a novice coin magic person like me, it's best to just go with the Johnsons products. But I know the design with the Schoolcraft Flipper Coins is in the location of the band which is far more superior than other flipper coin. Any suggestions / feedbacks? Thank you.
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler |
HK Cardman New user 37 Posts |
Sorry, Schoolcraft flipper cannot achieve the same effect as the Double Deception by Swadling . If you want Double Deception effect you must buy it from Swadling.
Hope this help. |
evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
HK Cardman, thanks for your feedback. However, I also read from a previous post
Quote: On 2004-11-04 16:27, magicinsight wrote:
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler |
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