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llsouder Regular user 114 Posts |
I practiced the through the hand part but it just seems to give away too much information. I tried some different vanishes to get rid of one of the coins but nothing seems to work very well. Then I watched the version on the Bobo project web site and noticed immediately that he too skipped the through the hand.
So is there a way to do this effectively or is it stinker in the middle of a great routine? |
llsouder Regular user 114 Posts |
BTW, without the penetration, I started using this patter which I think is somewhat original that goes like this:
I went to the store to buy a soda, the clerk told me the soda cost 50cents (or a dollar depending on the coins I am using). How many coins do I need to give to the clerk to pay for my drink? (2) Right so I have one coin left over and I put it away and pay the man but DOH!(I look confused as I throw out the 3 coins) I repeat this 2 more times as per Bobo routine becoming more and more furstrated, but on the last one I ask them, if you were the clerk would you give me a soda for what is in my hand, they always say YES, so I ask for the pretend soda and then I hand them what's in my hand! HA! |
Jim Tighe Veteran user West Virginia 363 Posts |
I've usually seen it done without the through the hand vanish. The Ron Bauer Booklet on Gadabout Coins only uses the In the Well Vanish described within the booklet. When I've done it I've always used a "toss" methodology I believed developed by Ken Krenzel with a steal (almost like the Williamson Strike Vanish) of the final coins.
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ithomson Veteran user 330 Posts |
This has been discussed:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=37 Once you get enough posts, there are some ideas and potential solutions here. Hope that helps. Ian |
llsouder Regular user 114 Posts |
I did a search on Gadabout but I don't know how I missed that thread!
Thanks!!! |
Malcolm Kavalsky Regular user 114 Posts |
I actually think the coin through the hand is a good double-bluff, though I am not sure that this was Bobo's original intent. I'll try to explain
Filming this for the OpenBobo project (where I try to be as true to the original as possible), I noticed that from the spectators point of view, it looks as though I somehow sleighted the coin around and into my hand since obviously I can't send coins thru it. So, if a coin was on top and after a few seconds I open the hand, and he sees a coin in it, this leads him to think that it is the SAME coin, where in fact it is another. And this is even more of a convincer that there are only 3 coins in play. I think there is an advantage to helping the spectator "work out" how the trick is done, and then a few seconds later you blow him away, when he realizes that he totally missed it, but now its too late, and its impossible to back-track. |
llsouder Regular user 114 Posts |
Do you over play the bluff and make it look a like failed or sloppy attempt?
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Malcolm Kavalsky Regular user 114 Posts |
Well, not too much, something like the spider vanish (where it is recommended to slightly tense up the hand that is pretending to hold the coin). Just enough to invoke suspicion in the spectator.
I don't yet have it down pat exactly the way I want it, (otherwise I'd put it on the site), but my strategy is to slightly turn the lower hand while the top hand finger palms the coin, suggesting that it slipped around an into the hand. The fact of the matter is that I am always wary of modifying routines created by the greats. Almost always what would seem to me an improvement, afterwards when I objectively compare with the original, the original is still better. Just look at the countless variations on Hanging Coins, and then watch David Roth's original. With all its simplicity it has incredible power, I have yet to see a variation that packs the same punch ... |
Conus Special user 657 Posts |
The through the hand bit is strong and entertaining -- if you play it properly.
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Amir Loyal user New York. 296 Posts |
Dan Watkins has a beautiful Gadabout on his website which gets rid of the whole process is a lot better then the original IMO:
www.coinvanish.com |
Mediocre the Great Inner circle Rich Hurley 1062 Posts |
I've done the gadabout routine for 25 years and the "through the hand" part always gets a strong reaction. I think timing and smooth flow are the key. If the routine is tight, I don't think it tips the extra coin especially since in the final phases you really do have only 3 coins.
Right before the I perform that segment of the trick, I place two coins in the spec's hands and hold one at my extreme right finger tips. I ask if they can guess which coin is the "trick" coin.... whatever the answer, I say, "it's the one I holding", then I do a coin flip (while ***** is in classic palm). After this subtlety I do the move, letting the coin pass through my hand and drop onto the other coins in the spec's hands. This part of the trick is so killer for me, I wouldn't think of taking it out!
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KidCrenshaw Special user USA 537 Posts |
I know where you're coming from. I hve a friend who does the through the hand bit, and he does it well.
I prefer a method I saw Ross Bertram do on his Legendary Magic videos. It's somewhat of a roll across the back of the hand, and then loading it as the hand turns palm up with a closed fist. It looks really well as Bertram does it, but I realized that I could use it for this and simply retain it. I wish I could so this little part as convincing as my friend does it, though he has been in the game for over 20 years, and his is as good as I'm sure some here have claimed theirs to be. Some day perhaps.
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