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shomemagic Inner circle Missouri 2232 Posts |
I have a 24 inch vinyl cutter and would be glad to do any custom work...Are you listening Chance?
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Handydandymagic New user 24 Posts |
It would seem to me that it would be more cost effective to buy the unit from Chance than make a copy of what he has already. Unless you are going into mass production the cost of the materials to build one unit will be pretty high. Just a thought...
Handy
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Dr. Solar Special user Citrus Heights, Ca. 526 Posts |
Hi,
Carlos didn't say he was going to replicate one of Chance's products. He must have a different idea. As far as sawdust goes, white oak is a sensitizer and carcinogen.I know, I was in the flooring business. Chance, those are extremely fine looking products.
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Jeff Haas Special user 929 Posts |
Funny story about Sintra...I made a prop for myself, after building a prototype out of cardboard. Inspired by Chance's props, I decided to make my prop really colorful. Someone gave me the tip to check with a local sign shop, since they make signs for trade shows and other events out of different types of plastic.
Well, when I asked about buying any scraps or sheets, I was treated very suspiciously! I don't know what they were thinking...it's not like I was going to buy a bit of material and then go into competition with them! So I made a working version of the prop out of corrugated plastic, which is like corrugated cardboard, but plastic and brightly colored. I found this through a local woman who uses it to build cages for guinea pigs. (We have some pigs from her that are "rescue guinea pigs" that came from a bad situation.) She gave me scraps for free. The prop came together and has been a big hit with kids; eventually I'll upgrade it to Sintra. But I have no idea what the local sign people were thinking I was doing! |
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Acecardician Inner circle New Orleans 1390 Posts |
Wow! And to think I made all of my earlier tricks out of milk cartons!
And I still do. ACE
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
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On 2006-01-16 00:12, Jeff Haas wrote: Jeff, do you know of any online provider for a small quantities of this stuff? Thanks |
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Frank Simpson Special user SW Montana 883 Posts |
Carlos-
When I was working for a display house I was never able to order it in anything smaller than a 4' x 8' sheet. If you're looking for smaller, you might see if a sign shop would sell you some, but it's likely to be expensive. Whenever someone asked for scraps at my shop I would only look at them suspiciously because I was planning on keeping the scraps for myself! Although I use it more for puppet building than magic. Actually at my shop I didn't keep much as "stock" except for 3 mil white. It is available in a wide variety of thicknesses and colors, so I would order it according to the needs of the project. Good luck! |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
Thanks, Frank.
Can you share a provider??? |
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Frank Simpson Special user SW Montana 883 Posts |
I no longer work at that shop, so I don't have the catalogs. I will try to give them a call this week to see if I can get that info for you.
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Steven True Special user Bonney Lake,WA 765 Posts |
After reading the posts here I think I would like to try some of it for some small props I want to make. I am using birch right now for some things but Sintra sounds intresting. Like Carlos, I would like to know where you can get it.
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David Bilan Special user Clarksville, TN 714 Posts |
I did a bit of web browsing and found a possible source for sintra smaller than in a 4 x 8 sheet:
http://www.solarbotics.net/starting/2002......tra.html Hope it does you some good.
Yes, I am a magician. No I did not make my hare (hair) disappear... it just took early retirement.
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Steven True Special user Bonney Lake,WA 765 Posts |
Thanks David, I will look it up on that link. I have heard about it here before and it just interests me. I am in the process of making a few small props and anything I can get that will make the prop look more professional I want to check into it.
Steven |
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jdknight New user 90 Posts |
Go to a couple of different hardware and/or building supply stores. There are many interesting materials from which to build. For smaller constructions, knife-making stores carry some really interesting woods, bone, plastics, and other materials.
For all of you cancer mongers out there...there are actually very few (about 60 or so)"known" carcinogens (benzene, dioxane among a few). There are many suspected (but unsubstantiated) potential carcinogens. A Carcinogen (briefly) is a compound, mixture, or an exposure circumstance (to the compound/mixture) that causes or promotes cancer. The point... saw away and enjoy. But you will probably feel better (and won't cough as much) if you do wear a dust mask. Although, if you want true protection you need to wear a respirator and use a particulate filter. If you paint or create very fine dusts as in sanding or sand blasting, wear a particulate/mists/fumes/acids combination filter on your respirator. They are not really that expensive. Just learn how to use them properly. Anyway... Darren |
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Steven True Special user Bonney Lake,WA 765 Posts |
Thanks Darren. The mask is always used. My father always made me use the mask when cutting anything as well as saftey glasses. He taught me well and he has a pretty decent work shop at his place too.
Steven |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
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curtgunz Special user Only 99% of users have more than 784 Posts |
I didn't even know Frank Sinatra made magic props, much less produced a whole line of PVC wood replacing material.
Is there nothing that man could not do. Sing, dance, get JFK elected and now this, Frank Sinatra makes all the materials for all of Chance Wolf's props. Cool. (I hope this rumor gets started well enough so that it has to be refuted at least once)
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Just thought I'd pipe in with another resource for builders- TAP Plastics, which is a West Coast chain from CA to WA. They sell acrylic, polycarbonate, and tons of other types of plastic, both clear and opaque- most of the sheets come in 2'x4', but you can buy "sample sizes" too. There's also shaped rods, spheres, etc.- tons of fun stuff to play with. They also sell some of the tools to work with it, too!
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Dave Lewis New user Anaheim, California 83 Posts |
Since most of us who have ever wanted to make magic props are already pretty good at finding and using various kinds of materials for the things we make, I apologize if I am about to suggest a source that is already well known. There have been mentions of using sign companies for producing computer cut vinyl for lettering and designs that can be applied to surfaces. What some folks don't often know is that the sign world is loaded with tons of cool stuff that can be used by crafty magicians!
There are lots of sheet materials from PVC (Sintra, Trovicel), Acrylic (Plexiglas), CorrPlast (plastic corrigated sheet), polycarbonate (Lexan) to MDO (Medium Doensity Overlaid plywood) that can be cut, routed, carved and shaped into props. Fastening techniques and hardware can also be found in the sign industry that aren't universally known by the folks at Home Depot. And the men and women who have chosen the sign business as their vocation are always researching and sharing what they find along the trail with other sign people and anyone else who shows interest. Here is a fantastic place to look around for yourself and see what is available via the sign trade. It will take some drilling into the links to find what you might be after but you might stumble across a few other goodies you can also use on the way. http://www.signweb.com Another great sign-related link where you'll find sign designers, crafters, lettering artists and carvers who share their skills and knowledge on this site: http://www.letterhead.com Sorry for the long-winded note but I've been really blessed to have been exposed to the sign business, where I've worked for 35 years, and the magic world for almost the same amount of time, and both have made my life rewarding and interesting. A lot of people in both fields have helped me over the years, so I guess I want to try to pay it forward. Have fun looking around!! Dave |
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