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Owen Anderson Loyal user A sturdy fence needs at least 231 Posts |
Bad Medicine sounds like an interesting read.
If the person who first speculated that we use only 10% of our brain (Margaret Mead?) was using 10% of their brain then isn't there a 90% chance of being wrong?
Owen Anderson
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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On 2006-01-03 18:06, Brian Turntime wrote: You're joking right? Please tell me that's a joke. The Asian cultures have passed down homeopathic treatments for centuries. They thrive and live to an older age than most other cultures anywhere. Chiropracters make homeopathy a large part of their practices, I guess according to you they're all quacks. And there has been a conspiracy going on in the scientific community for hundreds of years over the fact that we do not use 100% of our brains, so Uri Geller has an excuse as to why he can bend spoons? I'm just happy that you and Mr. Lamberti use 100% of your brain power. Maybe you two can find a way to end world hunger? |
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Infamy_Infamy New user Manchester, UK 30 Posts |
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People don't always understand you - at times you are extroverted, affable and social, while other times you seem to be introverted and reserved. Well Roth, I think that about sums up a mentalists' kind of personality, or perhaps persona.....
Imagination is the highest kite one can fly.
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Doctor Whoston Regular user Leeds, England 149 Posts |
Roth,
Which "Asian cultures have passed down homeopathic treatments for centuries"? DW |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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On 2006-01-05 03:23, Doctor Whoston wrote: The Oompa Loompas? |
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davejesc New user David Juraschek 83 Posts |
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On 2006-01-02 15:00, Roth wrote: This is essentially the underlying message I convey in my primary stage mentalism routine. If we use so little of our potential - and look what happens here as a result - imagine what you could do if you learned to use more of your untapped potential. This qualifies (along with some (often legitimate) scientific language framework "stuff") what my audience sees and experiences, and hopefully leaves them motivated to go beyond where they are now when my show is over. I want my audience to leave encouraged about themselves and what they can potentially do. I also want them to know that the impossible effects they see are not the result of my speaking with the dead or involvement in something metaphysically or spiritually based. They too can do impossible things if they set their minds to it - and work for it. No flimflam, no sales - just encouragement. -Dave |
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Doctor Whoston Regular user Leeds, England 149 Posts |
Ah, Oompa Loompas! That would explain it - they are as real as the effects of homeopathy.
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teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts |
[quote]On 2006-01-04 04:16, Doctor Whoston wrote:
On the subject of using only 10% of your brain, in the book Bad Medicine (can't remember author's name) there is an argument against this myth: You never hear a doctor say "It's ok, you'll be fine. The bullet's lodged in the 90% of your brain you don't use". Aquote] This quote should be that you only use up to 10% of your brain at one time Just like your computer Cheers TJ |
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Brian Turntime Special user 671 Posts |
Most people would prefer to be consistent than correct.
Quote: 1. Homeopathy was started in the 19th century by a quack named Hahnemann.
The Asian cultures have passed down homeopathic treatments for centuries. They thrive and live to an older age than most other cultures anywhere. 2. "Asians" are collectively 3 billion people, comprised of thousands of subcultures and dialects. Do you really mean to imply they all (or even many) use homeopathy, or that they categorically or statistically outlive all other cultures? Because that's demonstrably false. 3. Your argument is constructed: "A is true, and B is true, so A must be because of B." This is a post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this, so because of this) fallacy, so even if A was true or B was true, which they aren't, your proposition would be specious. Quote: No, according to objective reality and common sense, they're all quacks. Your statement uses the "appeal to authority" fallacy, which presupposes chiropractors must know something reality doesn't. Chiropracters (sic) make homeopathy a large part of their practices, I guess according to you they're all quacks. Quote: Risible. I imply no conspiracy, because there is no agreement or actual scientific theory which states that "we do not use 100% of our brains." This is not a science statement, is is an urban legend.
And there has been a conspiracy going on in the scientific community for hundreds of years over the fact (sic) that we do not use 100% of our brains, so Uri Geller has an excuse as to why he can bend spoons? Your premise is further unusable because any applicable neuroscience (such as CAT scans or MRIs) that accurately determine patterns of brain activity hasn't been around for "hundreds of years." It is a FACT that humans do indeed use close to 100% of cerebral potentiation (except, if I may, when visiting a chiropractor, homeoptah, or psychic.) Geller and others propagate the myth of fractional usage because it serves their interests and they don't care to find out the facts. I take it you did not read the linked neurology pieces above, in my earlier posts? Because both links reveal the source of the "20%" myth. Quote: All the intelligence in the world can't transform weather patterns, but a guy named Norman Borlaug has saved millions of lives with his work in increased crop yields. New hybridization programs by companies like Monsanto could save the lives and health of further millions, but politics have prevented much of this progress from being implemented. This is due to superstition propagated by radical environmentalists and other irrational elements. And so we come full circle: the same lack of common sense and reason that allows some to believe a drop of remedy in a vat of water can cure them or to buy into Geller's fraud, is the same form of benighted state that causes world hunger.I'm just happy that you and Mr. Lamberti use 100% of your brain power. Maybe you two can find a way to end world hunger?
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xersekis Special user 591 Posts |
Both sides in this are in error - there is a reason for the analogy of 10% and both adherents to and against it miss the major point.
We use our whole brain - differently at different times, sequentially and simultaneously, yet we realize only a small fraction of what we are capable of becasue we don't know how to use are brains effectively. We are most hapenstance. Hence the notion of 'no user manual for the brain'. The 10% myth is to inspire people to set out and utilize more of their abilities. for example we know we can develop phenomenal ability to enhance our memory, perform lighting fast mathamatecal calculations, learn many lanaguages, etc.etc. etc. yet most of us don't. Plus what our brain does outside of our awareness - the unconscious portions of our expereince is vast handling apparently millions of connections and permutations while what we can conciously appreciate or realize is much, much smaller. The notion of 7 +/- 2 bits of info, Yet everyone that knows anything understands that those bits can be greatly increased by increasing chunk size. However, most don't use their brains this way. It is about learning how to train our brain just like learning how to train our body or behavior. We use 100% of our body yet perhaps we are utilizing only a small portion of what that body is actually capanble of. SOme deveople muscles, athletic prowess and go on to enter competitions. So both miss the point. It is an analogy used for inspiration rather than a statement of fact. Both sides misapply it and seem to misunderstand it. Enjoy [quote]On 2006-01-03 17:23, Brian Turntime wrote: Quote: If not a joke, it is certainly a science myth that "we" only use a small percentage of our cerebral capacity.
Of course what is collectively false, may still be individually accurate. Posted: Jan 3, 2006 5:29pm -------------------------------------------------- Another article similar to the one linked above: http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm "One reason this myth has endured is that it has been adopted by psychics and other paranormal pushers to explain psychic powers. On more than one occasion I've heard psychics tell their audiences, "We only use ten percent of our minds. If scientists don't know what we do with the other ninety percent, it must be used for psychic powers!" "In Reason To Believe: A Practical Guide |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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On 2006-01-07 16:16, Brian Turntime wrote: You must be a lot of fun at parties. |
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Brian Turntime Special user 671 Posts |
I wish to offer a strong retraction: not all, in fact not many, chiropractors should be lumped in with the quackery that is homeopathy. Chiropractic does a lot for back pain and spinal problems. I apologize for putting them in the same class as psychics. That was wrong.
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