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moosemanty Regular user 102 Posts |
I am trying to learn to juggle but so far it is not going so well. I have been spending a lot of time on but I just can't figure it out. I have been learning things that go along with magic like ballooning that went very well but not this.
so any tips on things that would help a begining juggler like me? |
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john_herm New user NJ 69 Posts |
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TXKEVIN New user 57 Posts |
Look at the book Three Ball Digest by Dick Franco
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Arkadia Special user Sweden, Sundsvall 866 Posts |
Practice.
that's really the best way to learn. Juggling is not a trick which can be performed after some weeks of practise. It takes time. A lot of time. So, just keep practising and you will get there eventually. Good luck! /Ark
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carbone1853 Loyal user RI USA 239 Posts |
In a few hours over the course of an afternoon you can learn enough balloon bending to (sort of) impress an audience and fill a few minuets in you magic show. It will take much more time over the course of weeks/months before you will develop enough skill to do any juggling in front of an audience. So, if you find it taking longer to develop juggling material than balloon material for your act, you are proceeding as expected. So, you must decide if it is worth the time.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Balloons are a skill that requires NO talent at all unless you're John Cassidy who is a real balloon artist, please never compare it to juggling. Juggling is an art that you must have a burning desire to master, you will need more than a casual interest. Doesn't everybody wishes they could juggle, but can't be bothered to practice? In order to learn you must first have a fire in your belly. I tried to teach myself all my life, and it took a real juggler to break it down for me. Always remember a self taught juggler will never look polished, because the juggling clubs is where thousands of years of accumulated knowledge resides for you to tap into.
keep your eyes in the skies Al
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Bill Nuvo Inner circle 3094 Posts or 2742 Posts |
I remember when I was learning, I taught myself from the Klutz book (first edition). I remember it suggesting standing on a cliff edge and trying.
What Al (you changed your username!) said was very valid. Teaching yourself can only go so far and it can take longer because of missing finer points. Try to join a juggling club, go to convention or go to a festival and meet with a juggler there. The experience of others, even within five minutes can save you years of frustration.. |
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itshim Elite user Milton Keynes 417 Posts |
If you can find one, try to be taught by a juggler who regularly teaches kids. Firstly because they will have a much more tolerant approach to explaining what you need to do and secondly because they will have lots of different approaches to learning the skill.
I learnt to juggle one way, was shown a second way and now teach kids a third way. Each method has it's pros and cons and what works for you won't necessarily work for the person next to you. Also, be aware that books about juggling are generally written by jugglers who have been juggling a long time and tend to assume that what they found easy is easy for others. One of the most respected books out there is 'The Complete Juggler' by Dave Finnigan. Very good book, fairly comprehensive. Unfortunately in the three ball trick section is a trick that I haven't learnt in 17 years of juggling. A beginner might think it was an easy trick, believe me it isn't! (the trick I am referring to is the penguin). Talking to a single juggler can give you the same problem so talk to lots. The best place to find out where you can meet jugglers is http://www.jugglingdb.com look under clubs. Nigel
I knew a man who kept saying "pliers, pincers, scissors". He was speaking in tongs.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
OK MR. Bill
The powers that be at the magic Café made a major boo boo and appointed me to the Grammar police. In order for me to accept this honor I have to use my real name, so now they have an old juggler who can't spell correcting your spelling. Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Bill Nuvo Inner circle 3094 Posts or 2742 Posts |
Al, I guess congrats on the promotion. When did you become grammer host, oops I mean Grammar Host!
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Mr. Bill
I was appointed this month and I hope to make it to the end of the month unless they take a close look at my high school transcripts. Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
I can't offer you advice on juggling but want to mention an episode of the Travel Channel. I was watching The Flying Walendas and their family history. An amazing family of arialists still working without nets.
The youngest, during the taping of this program, was the 14 year old son. He was to be a member of the 7 man pyramid to cross the wire. The interesting thing about the young man was his intention to warm up the audience with juggling. Even the narrator of the program said he simply was not able to "find his groove"... I can't stand to see any performers struggle and have a rough time on stage but he was not having a good day. Dropping rings and clubs I wondered how he was about to pull off a 7 man pyramid on the high wire! Well as soon as he and his family hit the wire he was right at home and they walked it without a hitch. Don't mess with him around that wire. Hehehehe. Then again, The Flying Walendas are world famous for the high wire and not juggling. I was relieved to see them cross to the other side and be done with it all. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
"Not able to find his groove" is a lame excuse for not being good enough to perform in front of a crowd. Art Jennings one of the founders of the IJA told me long ago practice should be done at home, and performing is done in public after you have practiced your routine hundreds of times, and can do it perfect. So the boy was a professional wire walker who had a casual interest in juggling.
Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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itshim Elite user Milton Keynes 417 Posts |
This is true of circus and vaudeville but not of my act. I throw in new skills all the time, some of them are not solid. However, my persona allows for drops and I never perform without at least a few drops because they are necessary for my finale.
I've seen many many jugglers with solid routines perform with lots of drops in front of a juggling audience. The nerves get to them. Generally however I agree with you Al. Nigel
I knew a man who kept saying "pliers, pincers, scissors". He was speaking in tongs.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Dropping is a part of juggling, but when the audience feel sorry or embarrassed for you this is a sure sign of inexperience. My God even Anthony Gatto drops (I think), but the professional knows how to makes it part of the show.
Al
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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sbroomheadsr New user Retired, so I only have 59 Posts |
When I was learning to juggle, I seemed to be stuck at toss, toss, catch, catch. Couldn't get past that. A friend want to learn so we took our lunch time and "taught" each other. It helped to get past the point I was stuck. Granted, learning from another juggler would have been better but you make do with what you have.
I have since had some instruction from a seasoned juggler to get me started with rings and clubs. Their instruction made it seem easy. Emphasis on seems because after 4+ years I am still a beginner with the rings and clubs. Back when you could carry clubs onto a plane, I traveled with my juggling equipment and found that even my beginning juggling entertained those waiting in an airport. They were not expecting a polished performer but would clap and congratulate me as if I were one.
S Broomhead
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
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On 2006-01-15 11:39, Al Angello wrote: Oh yes! Anthony Gatto is the fellow I scrambled to remember. When I saw him juggle rings I almost couldn't take anymore of the suspense. He had several going and the audience was pleased. Then his assistant threw in a few more. That was very good and the rings changed color! We were excited. His assistant came back on stage and threw in another and another. We were just amazed. A standing ovation at this point would of been great and we would of all been happy. But oh no, no, no, no...Gatto had to have another and yet another ring thrown in. I was about to yell "Good god man! please stop! We are very very happy with you! Stop while your ahead! Oh the humanity!"... At this point, during a performance like this, you get to see the two types of spectators. Those like myself who are satisfied and appreciative of the act and those who start screaming "More! More! Hahahahaha...More! More!"...as if to suggest that 8 or 10 rings in the air just isn’t cutting it! Whenever I see jugglers (performers in general) I really want them to do well but this pushing the limits drives my nerves. I think that day I held the world record for holding one's breath. The total number of rings (forgot to count them) were all up in the air for a couple of seconds and he quickly wrapped it up placing the falling rings around his neck and the crowd went wild. I then remembered to breath again. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Yes Randy Anthony is super human, and that assistant you saw helping him was his dad. Anthony won the under 18 championship at 8 years old, and the adult championship at 13 years old. I saw him on TV once, and they asked him how it was to perform for Queen Elizabeth, and Anthony said "she was a nice lady".
Al
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Arkadia Special user Sweden, Sundsvall 866 Posts |
And he will be visiting Sweden at FISM this year! I loooong for that show.
/Ark
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Arkadia
He is the only person I have ever seen that can walk on a to gym floor to practice, and everyone else in the gym stops what they are doing to watch him practice. All other jugglers in the US simply refer to him as Anthony. In Italian Gatto means the cat. Al
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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