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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
I’ll have to watch my Lance video when I get home but isn’t the production you are referring from a Tenkai palm and the middle finger slide off the top card and clips it for production? Doesn’t McBride show this on his video?
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
No Markis,
This isn't how the production works, although many famous magicians have used this method to produce signles from the front hand possition. DJ |
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
Is it the one known by my fellow Chavez grads?
POOF!
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
Hhmmmm,
Care to tell us more Kregg? DJ |
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
To All:
I just got back home on Monday and I've finally had the opportunity to do some checking. After a bit of research in my magic library, I’m beginning to think that “Wmhegbli” might be correct when he said, “I believe it is an 'underground' method that is only passed between professionals. I have researched this extensively and have not located the method anywhere.” Now I am assuming that the “front hand single card production” that “DJ Trix” and “Wmhegbli” are referring to is the one where a stock of cards are bend almost in half (widthwise) and held deep into the crook of the left thumb. The production movement is initiated by the ring finger, which bends inwards and peels off a single card after which the middle finger comes behind the single card. Finally the index finger bends inwards and comes in front of the single card, the three bent fingers grip the card and as they extend the card pops into view. If this is the sleight that these gentlemen are referring to, I can say that I learned that exact move from the instruction sheet of the trick called “grab-a-dollar”, which was marketed by Dr. Charles F. Harad in 1939. Granted that trick involved the production of gimmicked dollar bills, but the move is identical to the one with playing cards which I described above in the previous paragraph. Unfortunately I don’t have the instruction sheet anymore, but when I read it (in the 1970s), I was left with the impression that Mr. Harad didn’t invent the move but he instead adapted it from a card move. So, if that is the move that we are talking about than we can safely assume that it was invented before 1939. Regarding “magickdabid—uk” post about Tommy Tucker’s “The front-palm single card production” from “Expert Manipulative Magic” by Chas. C. Eastman, copyright 1933 (incidentally this book also contains Tommy Tucker’s now ubiquitous “Six Card Repeat”). The sleight that Mr. Eastman describes is a completely different kind of front hand card production from the one that was used with “Grab-A-Dollar”. What I find intriguing about the Tucker card production is that the text from the book begins with, “This sleight was developed to eliminate the cramped conditions of the hand and the bending of the cards which was ever present in other methods of accomplishing this effect”. To me it almost sounds like he is referring to the card production sleight I described in the second paragraph or a sleight similar to it! As to the basic concept of a front-hand card production, a plethora of sleights appears in the magic literature and I believe it was a kind of card production that was popular amongst manipulators from the vaudeville era. For instance I have film footage of Cardini doing a front-hand card production recorded at about 1930. Cardini’s move was published in “Dai Vernon’s More Inner Card Secrets” by Lewis Ganson. Also in that book is the front-hand card production that the Vaudevillan Allen Shaw taught to Vernon when he was a boy, so that must have been around 1910. And as I mentioned last week Tenkai’s method was published by Abbotts. Now I would like to clarify something. In an earlier post on this thread I mentioned that the first two magicians that I saw doing the front-hand productions in the left hand in combination with single card productions in the right hand was Norm Nielsen and Shimada. I did not mean the reader to infer that these men invented this concept. I have always assumed that other magicians performed this kind of two-handed production during the vaudeville era. Remember just because we don’t have a film of the great performers of the past doesn’t mean they didn’t do these effects. My feeling is supported by the video of the 63-year-old Arthur Buckley performing his “Misers Dream” routine on television in 1953 wherein he stands facing stage right and produces silver dollar in both hands via the Downs palm. The coins drop one at a time into a top hat after they appear in an alternating (left-right, left-right) fashion. I can’t image that this sort of rapid production wasn’t adapted by card manipulators of Mr. Buckley’s era. In conclusion, if I come across the card production (that I think we are talking about) in the literature I will post it in this thread. In turn if you the reader find a reference to the move that you will do the same. And hopefully someone will solve this mystery that “Wmhegbli” brought to our attention. Best regards, Levent
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com |
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
WOW Levent,
That is the exact production I am trying to get my hands on, EXACT. I am going to try to get this manuscript/book. I will let you know how my search went. Thanks again guys, DJ |
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
DJ Trix:
If you are looking for “grab-a-dollar”, then I suggest you call Tannens magic in New York. The trick appeared in their catalog number 19 (which is a few years old). Unfortunately I didn’t see it on their website. But, it is possible that they might have one for sale in the stockroom. Best regards, Levent
Levent
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
Thanks again Levent,
DJ |
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
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On 2006-02-15 13:57, DJ Trix wrote: Isn't that the same thing McBride teaches on his tape? |
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
Dear Markis:
I don’t remember if Jeff taught that method on "The art of card manipulation" tapes. I don’t own a copy of this video, but I did borrow it from a friend a few years ago and it is excellent. I do know that “Graham Fishman” is correct when he said the move was taught on “Tony Clark’s Award Winning Card Routine” DVD. I’m not sure if I got this correct. But I think what “DJ Trix” was actually asking in this thread was not how to do the move. But, instead where in the old magic literature did this sleight originate. By the way, I’m beginning to think that this sleight might be in the early 20th Century magic periodicals, such as “the Sphinx”, “the Magic Wand” or “Stanyon’s Magic”. Best regards, Levent
Levent
www.LeventMagic.com |
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