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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
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On 2006-04-30 03:32, Gochos wrote: Sorry guys, I stand corrected. I was going by what posts # 6,7,8 and 9 of this thread were saying, as well as what I'd last heard. Yeah, Lovick more or less panned SMS in his review, but then if you really read it close, it becomes obvious that he's not the most objective reviewer. He even panned the music on the DVD - obviously a very subjective thing, and if you're a big fan of Paul Anka, for example, it's doubtful that you'll enjoy the sounds of "Headrot" very much. Even at that, though, in the end, he admitted that he could not just dismiss it, that he feels there's something to SMS, some real potential, but that it just hasn't been fully developed, to which I agree to an extent. He feels they rushed it to market without solidly developing it, but on the other hand, it's not so rare these days someone gets wind of a soon to be released effect or new utility and copies and markets it, effectively beating the true originator to the punch. Besides that, it's kind of fun, as a user and member of the forum, to be part of that discovery process. It's very .. interactive.
Just hanging out with the rest of my fellow dregs.
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Philippe Special user 771 Posts |
For those of you with the Wizard ring, enquire about the Ring Thing!
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Philippe Special user 771 Posts |
This is not the DVD called 'The Ring Thing' this is the wizards natural progresion. I have one, I only wish I was free to tell you the amazing new principle. This is a killer. Ask Gochos!
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wise owl Special user Australia 721 Posts |
SMS and PK ring are similar products but with different uses. PK ring is much weaker in strength and is good for all PK effects and chop(?) cup tricks.
SMS is as the name suggested, a system rather than a trick. It has much wider usages but need more sleight of hand and practice (and imagination too?). For example, it can be used in effects that raven can do- but without the need of a Jacket. It can also used for "coin thru glass table" effects, which PK ring is too weak to do it. Yet, SMS can also used for PK effects and chop cup, but it is not as clean as PK ring. Personally I like SMS much better due to the strength and wide range of usages. PK ring is not really "clean" as it appear. It is very obviously (may be just me and my friends)that the ring is the gimmick. Hopes this comparison help. But then, it is only personal feeling. You may find it quite different. |
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
Like all utilities, if they are used in an obvious fashion, yo will get nailed....(ie. if you use a Topit too often, it becomes obvious...but if you use it on the "off-beat", it is devistatingly deceptive.)
That is why using the PK ring for a chop cup or bottle cap through bottle or for mentalism effects is VERY GOOD. On the other hand, if you use it for PK effects exclusively, it may become obvious unless other methods are employed to throw the spectator off track. I personally like Chop cup and bottle cap thru bottle best !
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Castle2369 Loyal user Boston, MA 207 Posts |
I use The M5 System, and The Wizard PK Ring alot. I would recommend to pick-up both of these two-items. But if in comparison of which is better, this is really a matter of preference. But if you want the most powerful of the two, than I would suggest to get the M5. All in All, I find the PK Ring a valuable tool for mentalism or magic presentation, trust me you'll have a lot of fun using this utility friends.
Best Regards, Erick Castle
Creator of the Gallerian Bend
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clusters New user 62 Posts |
What do you guys mean that the SMS is a system???
I don't quite understand how a ring can be a system??? |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Clusters:
It is not just a ring. Contact the manufacturer if you want more information than that. Tony |
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CasualSoul Special user Edmonton, Canada 542 Posts |
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On 2006-05-07 13:33, clusters wrote: It's not just a ring, it's a holdout system that also allows you to do all the other effects of a PK ring. It also has a vanish capability that doesn't have the talking you'd get with a PK ring. It is much more than just a ring and I find, as a utility item, I use it more now than my TT's. I actually just bought a second one, which is supposed to be more powerful than my original.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
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On 2006-05-08 14:20, CasualSoul wrote: right on!
Double posters should be shot!
No really!! |
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poprocz Regular user 106 Posts |
Can you guys possibly explain what the more powerful one will be able to do over the older one?
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
The "magic" penetrates more "thickness"
Double posters should be shot!
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
I did not hear that there was a new (more powerful) Wizard PK Ring ?
I just thought they made 1 model in silver or gold ? I was under the impression that using a higher grade magnet would make the ring more brittle and raise the likelyhood that it will crack to to a bump or of a metal object get's attracted to it too hard.
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CasualSoul Special user Edmonton, Canada 542 Posts |
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On 2006-05-09 09:10, Expertmagician wrote: There isn't, the Subterfuge system has been made more powerful.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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jclark Special user 510 Posts |
Check out: http://www.blacksmagicshop.com
I will let any Wizard PK Ring owner try out the Black's Magic PK Ring at no cost. Just over shipping. For more details, email me: j clark AT blacks magic shop . com |
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
Your link is no good???
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New York |
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jclark Special user 510 Posts |
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Peo Olsson Inner circle Stockholm, Sweden 3260 Posts |
Having got Subterfuge now, and it rocks!
Peo
Pictured to the left my hero and me during FISM 2006 in Stockholm.
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Mesquita Special user 917 Posts |
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On 2006-06-07 00:33, Peo Olsson wrote: I got it too!! And what a great utility device!
"Siempre somos tres me acompaña la luna y me sigue mi sombra" René Lavand
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
I TOLD you! muwahahahah! lol
Double posters should be shot!
No really!! |
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