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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
My point (just be clear) was that it was possible (now it seems likely) that she didn't speak spanish to you because of how you looked to her, but because spanish was the only language she knew.
Here in Dallas there are plenty of people who only speak spanish. Mark
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
What if she was a tourist? Or visiting friends? Or if she moved here very late in life and found herself surrounded by people who only spoke Spanish and found no reason to go to the effort (and it IS an effort) to learn the language?
I don't know my American history but I'm pretty sure the pilgrams (?) didn't take on the local indiginous languages when they arrived. I'm sure they spoke whatever language was easiest for them to communicate with. (Just like when the Englished arrived here in Australia) 31 million Americans speak Spanish at home. |
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
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31 million Americans speak Spanish at home. I'm bilingual with proper English and Spanish but in public find myself speaking MORE AND MORE Spanish against my will more often than not. I'm tired of it. If I wanted this crap on a regular basis, I'd move to Mexico where apparently they have more than 31 million Spanish speakers? I do live in 'America' according to the map. Maybe not for long. Even as a Veteran, maybe I'm due for another trip back to Korea where I can forget about both languages as a lost soul. I'm just hungry for speaking so called 'ENGLISH' on a regular basis but not so hopeful. I can however talk to myself in my preferred language. Hehehe Some things never change. |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2006-05-23 15:38, mrbilldentertainer wrote: I remember living in Bristol, Rhode Island for a few years. I didn't even realize what a "white" area it was until we had some guest students from another school and I actually had a "stop" moment seeing two black kids in the Caféteria! Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2006-05-24 16:02, RandyStewart wrote: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2006-05-24 10:23, Leland Stone wrote: why is that Burger King PRINTS the following notice IN ANY LANGUAGE on its menu boards: "Pictographic menus are available for customers unable to read" Sounds like a Gallagher bit! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gallagher did say that all he needed to be funny was to hold a mirror up to us or society in general. As for the printed sign regarding pictographic menus, they are made by the same people who put brail text on elevator panels and the like. Apparently, for a blind person, getting to the elevator is the easy part while figuring out if before them is an elevator or closet door. And I've never seen the printed reminder for the pictographic menu. I must be blind. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The best comedians "hold up a mirror" to society... and Gallagher does to! I always think of George Carlin who's opening remark was (censorship mine); "This is my job, pointing out all that goofy #$%@ nobody else notices!"
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 01:16, RandyStewart wrote: Language is not something determined by borders or policies or laws. It is created and used out of necessity. It is fluid and it changes to suit social, economic and cultural trends. If you find yourself needing to speak spanish, then speak spanish. If English is required, then speak English. The english language comes from England who, in turn, stole it from the greeks, the romans and others. Its certainly not an American thing. |
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Marshall Thornside Inner circle chicago 2016 Posts |
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On 2006-05-24 21:30, Chessmann wrote: What is it we say to people when we visit or in another country?? "Excuse me, do you speak English?" With our Berliz manual in hand, we ask that question in their native language... "Excuse me, do you speak Spanish?" "Excuse me, do you speak Polish?" "Excuse me, do you speak Chinese?" "Excuse me, do you speak French?"
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Tom Bartlett Special user Our southern border could use 763 Posts |
Diversity is just one of the liberal talking points. It is the fires of adversity that temper us and make us stronger.
No one has to learn the language we speck, but they should try and the people that do will benefit the most.
Our friends don't have to agree with me about everything and some that I hold very dear don't have to agree about anything, except where we are going to meet them for dinner.
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James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 10:19, Marshall Thornside wrote: Ok, I honestly think this is getting ridiculous. The woman asked you a question in Spanish because its the only language she knows. Seriously, if you find that offensive, Im amazed. I can see where you're coming from to be mistaken for someone who speaks spanish (even though I still wouldnt be offended) but getting offended because a woman attempted to communicate with you in the only way she knew how is pretty strange. James |
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Tom Bartlett Special user Our southern border could use 763 Posts |
There is a stand up comedian of oriental linage born and rased in Texas. His natural, Texas accent makes for some good comedy. I wish I could remember his name, well any way, to the best of my recollection one of his stories is about Asian people come up to him and start talking in their language thinking he can understand him and he informs the he’s from Texas.
Our friends don't have to agree with me about everything and some that I hold very dear don't have to agree about anything, except where we are going to meet them for dinner.
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Marshall Thornside Inner circle chicago 2016 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 13:39, smoothassilk wrote: that's like something where my dad has this line where people thinks he looks like he's indian...and not chinese. I think in his monolouge he say's this boy wants to play Cowboys and Indian but he's Chinese... So they play Cowboys and Chinese and goes on to say he took the winning side...the Cowboy. They don't call Chinese people yellow for nothing...i can't remember exactly. I'm sure some of the people here know what I'm talking about. Bill would know but he's in Germany right now.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 12:02, AJOJRF wrote: I quite agree, this is getting silly - a mountain is being made out of a molehill. This lady probably didn't have a Berlitz manual on hand (and you don't know how long this lady has been in this country, nor do you know how much opportunity she has had to begin learning english). It would seem that she has not yet learned to say, "Excuse me, do you speak Spanish?" If she had, she might well have used it. Maybe she did know how to say that question in english, but was embarrassed to try, feeling that she would sound bad - I see this a lot in other countries. Why are you personally offended because a woman tried to communicate something to you in the only way she knew? Perhaps because you did not like the thought that someone could look at you and think that your racial heritage is not what it truly is? You know, if I were in Poland and said, "Do you speak English?", I would get the answer very quickly! ;^) I have been in many countries, and asked that question - sometimes in the native language and sometimes in english. It's no big deal. I have also been asked that question when in another country - in english and other languages. I am happy to answer.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Tom Bartlett Special user Our southern border could use 763 Posts |
Leland, great observation, sounds more like "George Carlin" though. We will brobly here that on Lenno tonight. LOL
Leland wrote: “why is that Burger King PRINTS the following notice IN ANY LANGUAGE on its menu boards: "Pictographic menus are available for customers unable to read"
Our friends don't have to agree with me about everything and some that I hold very dear don't have to agree about anything, except where we are going to meet them for dinner.
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