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Redhead New user 56 Posts |
How long did it take you to be able to do multiple consective coin rolls smothly with one hand?
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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
One Month until I felt that I had it mastered with my right. Still working on my left.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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BooRadley Regular user Houston Area 176 Posts |
I spent 3 months staring at my hand practicing. Once I STOPPED looking at my hand, and did it by "feel", I had it down cold in a couple weeks. Now I can do two coings in each hand...left isn't as smooth--but I do better NOT looking at my hand.
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solidimageartsllc Regular user Los Angeles 176 Posts |
Boo -
Snap! This is EXACTLY what is happening to me. If I watch my hand while doing a coin roll, everything slows to an inept crawl, but if I don't watch my hand, the coin rolls at a decent clip and quite smoothly. I'm using half dollars... -Dan
Take infinite pain to make something look effortless - Michelangelo
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts |
Stare at your hand and pretend you aren't seeing anything =D
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BooRadley Regular user Houston Area 176 Posts |
Dan--I attended a lecture by a student of Slydini in the 70's and they did several routines that used the coin roll as a flourish. I was blown away, so I decided I would learn it. I used silver dollars and half dollars--but eventually found I was better with halves as well. I'd sit in my chair watching football practicing, but I always dropped the @#$% coin on the floor and had to get up and find it.
I eventually got a large plastic bag and put it over my hand with a rubber band on my wrist so even when I dropped it, I could sit in my chair. Since the coin wasn't going anywhere if it slipped, I began to focus on TV and not the coin...it became a "background" function. Within days, the number of times I dropped the coin decreased until I could pretty much control it all the time. I even practiced doing it with my hand upside down to really keep control over it. Can't go fast that way, but it's an interesting way to force yourself to maintain contact at all times. Eventually, the plastic bag went away and I could sit doing something and just work the coin in my hand without paying any attention to it. Because I'm getting back into it, I sit in my chair doing the roll while we watch TV. It comes back to you quick! BooRadley |
Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts |
Practice, practice, practice...that's what makes it happen. The psychology of the move is probably just that, just the over-intentioned thinking getting in the way of the reflex action setting in solidly, mostly by the added attention you give it. When you got it good, it becomes part of you, much like the way a person plays with a pencil at a meeting, or the way a young girl plays & twirls at her hair aimlessly, just matter of fact stuff, no real thinking necessary. Might not feel so easy right now, but such is life as you continue to live it, it's getting better ...Just keep practicing, it'll come. That's the way all this stuff works, and I do mean ALL of it, in coin magic and anything else we set our minds to. -MB
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cperkins Special user 700 Posts |
Once you master this move with some confidence, try tilting your hand down a bit and try to get a trickle down effect with it...(use gravity a bit), it moves down the fingers quicker with less visible movement of the fingers. This makes the roll look far more fluid and with very little effort.
I am getting down right weird with it...I do coin rolls all the time (nervous habit?)...like the captain in the movie, Caine Mutany...with the ball bearings in hand...you had to see the movie... cp
To see a difficult thing lightly handled gives the impression of the impossible.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts |
Hey Red, I think you got a lot of good advice here, but there's advice and then there's expertise...Doubt seriously if any of the good advice given here is anywhere in the league of this sort of expertise...Still, it all emanates from practice, and then real ability...That's the good-better-best thing in all of us. Enjoy and aspire. -MB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvIYv5qF-LY
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Rob Pond Regular user Scott, OH 156 Posts |
Wow! That guy is very good. There is too much finger movement though in my opion.
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Lawrens Godon Inner circle France 1108 Posts |
Salut!
Here's something for the ones who can roll the coin forward and backward : instead of having the coin moves, just try to have your hand move instead... I mean moving the hand forward and backward while doing the move...The coin rolls but kind of stay stationary in space. I love that way of doing the roll..."isolated steeple chase"...! don't know if this is clear? This idea came into my mind while practicing isolations with a clear crystal ball...your hands move around the ball and it stays fixed in space...though the "isolated" term... I think this concept could be adaptated to many moves with a lot of different props, as long as you have to openly move it in space... Remember the old "rubber coin" stunt? Now try the same move and do the isolation stuff...weird!!! A la prochaine! |
clamon86 Special user 508 Posts |
Its different for everyone. just keep practicing
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**Roper** Regular user Houston 179 Posts |
Redhead once you’ve mastered the coin roll, checkout Jay Sankey’s revolutionary coin magic dvd. He has a great coin across that uses the coin roll for misdirection. It uses the coin roll combined with Hang Ping Chin. You make four coins travel from one hand to the other and the hands never apparently come together.
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jon dough New user 37 Posts |
I know size matters in this case. Do you notice that you can roll halfs faster than dollars? I don't think I've seen dollars roll as fast as Kianoa harbottle's halves. Even bigger hands like Curtis Kam. No offense curtis..your great. I use dollars, but I can't use much of the tilt gravity effect like some can with halves. Dollars too heavy?.. Any suggestions?
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17411 Posts |
Practice with a junbo coin, and when you give up, the half seems much easier... ..
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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patrick66 Veteran user The Netherlands 384 Posts |
I started out learning the coin roll with a Dutch guilder when I was 15. Now I do it preferrably with a 2 Euro coin. Recently I mastered the four coin roll (only on my right hand though...) and I do that with casino tokens. I can do one coin with my left hand but it doesn't look very smooth.
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Paul Wingham Veteran user Rustington, South Coast, UK 365 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvIYv5qF-LY
all you need to do this is a clock that ticks 10 times slower than a normal clock and then speed the tape up....... just kidding. That said I don't know what impressed me more the coin role or the giant kettle shaped clock. |
jon dough New user 37 Posts |
Mr. Harbottle's coin roll is still more impressive. He accually lets it roll using gravity more than his fingers.
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