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G. Batson Regular user 147 Posts |
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Maybe, he could end up with a page as good as this: http://www.geocities.com/timpossible45/ from the website... "Tim Possible has stared in many Las Vegas shows. His innovative and autistic presentations of magic have one him literally several awards both in the USA and nationally as well..." Interesting, never heard of an autistic presentation. G. |
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Colin Gilbert New user 77 Posts |
Dustin Hoffman was quite good in Rainman.
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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
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On 2006-07-13 11:59, G. Batson wrote: At first, I thought maybe we were missing the joke - maybe it's a parody of a magician's site. But then I scrolled down the page, and it is apparent that this individual really does want you to book him. This, from his webiste: Quote:
Tim Possible has stared in many Obviously one of magic's best(?) kept secrets. |
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kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
I just noticed the big photo on the "Contacts page". The caption reads a "picture is worth a thousand words".
Everyone in the photo (except Mr. Dugdale-eye on to the camera) is looking stage right, seemingly at the reaction of the person whose watch is being held aloft- we have no idea of how the "subject" is reacting, nor is there anyone in the photo actually looking at Mr. Dugdale. Okay, so that was not a thousand words, but I am still thinking this gentleman needs to hire a prefessional agency and photographer, and spell out his needs clearly so his site looks as professional as he is trying to present himself. k
Kay and Tory
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Colin Gilbert New user 77 Posts |
Kaytracey Quote [Get over it and try reading the responses to your actual question.]
I can't see where anyone has really answered Wonder pefomance's actual question. (that's right- PEFOMANCE - Funny how you all missed that whilst you were on your high horses. Anyway his question was 'I wonder if anyone thinks it's a good idea to have your face on your internet page talking to the visitor?' What he thinks of Mr Dugdales site is irrelevant but everyone has decided to rubbish it in every possible way they can. I too have never heared of Mr Dugdale but that doesn't give me the right to poke fun at his work, his claims or his site. Maybe he is 'Wonder Pefomance' who knows? He wouldn't be the first to hide behind a psuedonym. Nothing is to be learnt from this topic except that this particular 'Brotherhood of magicians' should be ashamed of themselves. |
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kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
Colin, a number of us said the idea is good, just that is should be professionally done, or at least done at a higher level than a guy in a t-shirt with not so good lighting, and a leafy growth from his head. As a specific site was given, a number of us went and looked. Since the choices made by the end consumer rely on many things that no one has control over, who can say!?! Perhaps the example given works well. I know a number of folks who use video in their sites, to good advantage. MOST of those are shot, or at least edited, somewhat more professionally than the example given. I took the time to look about the rest of the site, and I made comments on it from my opion, and only mine. If the talking face video sells and gets the man work, then this is all just a moot point.
IThank you Colin for cutting thorugh to the original actual question. shall be feeling properly chastised by you now, for the remainder of my life for overlooking the true question that was asked. Thank you for correcting my erroniously directed answer to a simple question. (I am being serious) ANSWER to original question: Yes, a well done video commercial is a good idea on the internet- it is usually preferred on demand, meaning one should click a button, not have it auto start, as some people might be at work surfing and get into trouble when something starts without warning. Regards Kay
Kay and Tory
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Lui posted something that really rang the chimes for this thread:
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What I like about websites: I'd add one thing to that list of likes - readability. The site has to be clear and easy to read. If it isn't, then it fails as an advertising tool. And I'd like to add one thing to the list of dislikes: unprofessional grapics (and that includes video, but not to as great an extent). The web is a VISUAL medium and, as such, people have to SEE what they are looking at. Poor graphics, with jaggy edges, poorly color-corrected photos, photos that are too small or too dark to see or poorly drawn graphics simply say to a potential client that the performer does not care about his presentation on the web and therefore will also draw the conclusion that he doesn't care as much about his, or her, presentation in front of an audience, either. And with video, while some amateur footage can lend a "cinema verite' " stylistic element to a site, it can also damage a site if done in a sloppy manner. And shooting a talking head where that head keeps moving partially out of the frams is sloppy work, plain and simple. And the buying public will see that and recognize it as being sloppy as there was no attempt at making the talking head sequence into some sort of stylistic statement, either visually or on an auditory basis. It was a straightforward delivery of information, much like a news presenter would put forward on the nightly news. And that, for a "top flight, number one, internationally ranked magician" is simply not in keeping with his status AS being all of that. The "talking head" sequence on this web page should have been either shot differently to reflect a stylistic statement or it should have been reshot with an eye to better quality in the final video product. But as it stands, there isn't much excuse for moving partially out of frame as he does in the opening moments of the presentation, the lack of fill lighting gave his face some rather odd shadows at times and the sound could have been engineered better. Or, it could have been done to LOOK more gritty on purpose as a stylistic statement and none of these comments would be appropriate. But, as it stands, it is somewhere in-between and, as such, it comes across as amateur video, shot on a home camera, using the camera's mic, as opposed to using higher quality equipment, better lighting and sound gear, which a top-flight professional would be expected to do. And for the record, my undeclared college minor was video production, so I do know a bit of what I am talking about on this. Lee Darrow, C.H.
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wonder pefomance New user 60 Posts |
A lot has been said about mr dugdale on this discussion. some have said he looks like a tool. some have said he has bad hair and wears cheap clothes from primark. some have said he has big fat lips like he has been kissing a hot iron.
is it right to say these things? I think not. I think that mr dugdale is an elite perfomer who deserves our respect. after all it is not us who decide who is booked and who is not. they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating, well here is what a cockney says about dugdale http://www.chrisdugdalemagic.com/page/page/1911764.htm "the best in the world" - that is a quote from someone who knows. The green eyed monster (jealousy) is on the Café and it's not nice. p.s. timpossible - is this a joke from mr ellis? I always like your magical humour eg. the 6 card rap. keep making funnies. yours in laughter and magic, wonder peromance. |
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lui Regular user Berlin, Germany 108 Posts |
Leaving Mr Dugdale aside for a moment (although I do decided who I book and who I don’t.), back to the original question: Is it a good idea to have your face on your internet page talking to the visitor ?
And here the answer : It depends … It depends on the impression you transmit to your viewer and potential business partner. After the first 5 – 10 seconds the visitor will have made up his mind what kind of character and performer you are. Much more than your actual statement they will remember your character. They will judge (among other criteria) by
While a low quality Blair-Witch like video might be excellent for a bizarre magician, someone aiming to mix with the rich and famous might rather prefer a James-Bond like setting. Further 5 – 10 seconds is also the time that’s left to arouse and hook the visitor’s interest. Either the person talking, the video style, the text or the storyline need to catch the audience attention and make them wanting more. If your budget, technical possibilities, innovative ideas and performing skills are sufficient to transfer the desired image, such a video is an interesting way to go. If your are just exploring the possibilities of your presentation, it might be smart to start with good atmospheric photos/pictures first. Usually they are cheaper, easier to generate and edit, and you strike that pose only for a moment. Most video ideas can be roughly emulated by a sequel of photos/drawings. Finally you need those pictures anyway … flyer, cards posters, webpage, etc. Beside all those image stuff, a honest sample of your real work will be the strongest argument for (or against) You. I want to be sure what I’ll get for my money. Therefore, I will rather trust an unedited video of an actual performance than a highly edited studio production, speech or talking face of any kind. By the way - I don’t think that it is the green eyed monster this time – rather the razor tongued creeper (cynicism). |
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magicman414 Regular user Oklahoma 157 Posts |
I would have to say C. Dugdale's(aka. your) website looks kindof like a joke. It doesn't matter how much money you get every year or what kind of a car you drive as long as you are talented and love what you are doing. I know of way more talent that makes less than that and dosn't drive a fancy caror if they do doesn't brag about it think it will make them more talented. I have seen 15-20 year olds with better talent then what I have seen of Chris. Just check out Reza's site its the bomb. Now he is talented. So Wonder Pefomance check other performers before calling Chris Dugdale the best.
~Cameron~ Ps. Get spelling help. (It's spelled PeRfoRmance)
Cameron
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