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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Lyndel any method which keeps you busy is great. I happen to hate the marketing aspects of magic. Strangely enough I love cars though. I am far from a mechanic but love to tinker arround on old cars. But I know when to take my new car in to the mechanic.
In the beginning, I beleive you have to almost do things yourself. No agent really wants to "bring you along" so learning the skills are a necessary evil. I just know I don't have the contacts the agents do. So I spend more time at the pool.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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HypnotizeAmerica Veteran user 399 Posts |
So Danny how does a guy go from being someone with an act and marketing himself to having someone market for him. Truthfully I'd gladly pay at least 20% to have someone contact me and say "Hilton Hotel - August 18th" and that be it. I love the marketing aspect but like Ron White "I got a lot of quit in me" and would love for someone else to do it.
Tim |
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Tony Brent Regular user Orlando, Florida 156 Posts |
One mistake many performers make is signing with and agent then sitting back and expecting the phone to ring. I have been an agent with a large firm at one point in my life and I can tell you that an agent will not pitch a magician unless the client specifically asks for a magician. Why, because the agent makes a lot more money selling a high-priced band than they will make selling most magic acts out there. It comes down to economics. I'm like Lyndel, I don't wait for them to call me. Go directly after the client and you can generate repeat customers.
Tony Brent Orlando, Florida |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Tony in the beginning your right. BUT wait 20 years and the numbers change dramatically.
Tim you have to book yourself at first. No agent I know of wants to offer you "On the job training". At least in my experience. Tony I know of FEW agents who book bands, hypnotists, comedians, and so forth. So the conflict in their bank book is almost non existant. I have a LOT of people call the agent back looking for me. This happens particularly in the college market, which I am not as active in as I once was. Try booking yourself as many well priced and well routed college shows as an agent can. Many many larger companies will only deal with agents, out of reputation or habit. Mind you I am not saying don't do your own work. Just that agents make your life so much easier. Posted: Aug 10, 2006 10:11am Tim to become the guy agents call you have to have an act. It has to be well represented in your promo stuff. Above all it has to be dependable. If they call and you say yes, then you be ther no matter what. Like with any client. Also being flexible is a huge thing agents like. Easy to work with for clients. Being a generally nice person to their client is what they want.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Doug Arden Special user 886 Posts |
Danny's right, as usual.
I book a fair amount of my corporate work myself but there are many companies out there who will only book through an agent. They don't care who you are or how nice your promo is, they won't book you direct. Agents are able to open those doors for me. I get repeat bookings and referal work from the gigs I book myself but I also get them from shows agents have put me into, just as Danny and I'm sure a lot of other full-time pros as well. Also, because I service the high end corporate market, when an agent books me they make a commission of $500 - $700 depending on the what I'm doing and the price of the show. None of them have ever complained that's not enough to bother with. Also, as Danny said, you need to have a very good show, be dependable, and nice off stage as well. When an agent sends a good act into an event and they do a great job, then he has that client again for their next party. The client is happy, the agent is happy, and the entertainer is happy because he gets a testimonial and maybe spin-off bookings from that event. Everybody's happy! You can get the big cheques, the testimonials and spin-off bookings when you book yourself, I do all the time. What I don't understand is the resistance of some individuals on working with reputable agents? To me it's a no-brainer. Why would you want to leave all that potential money on the table? |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Doug, great phrase "why leave all that money on the table?".
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Doug Arden Special user 886 Posts |
Amen, brother.
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