I posted this elsewhere, but thought I might get more traffic here.

I would like some ideas on how to do this. I am working on a routine that requires repeated loading(preferably from the back of a table) into a top hat &a box, and ditching(again to the back side of a table).

The object will be a stuffed rabbit, and the table will be whatever is available at the site that I perform at, so what ever I use, it will need to be portable.

Thanks
John

Consider using a box made to your specifications. Half of the box could have a cover to be used as a table top to place your hat, etc. This idea is in some of Duane Lafflin's videos.

Duane accesses his loads from the inside of the box, inside hats, and the back of his table (I believe this is his last resort, however).

Hope this helps,

john

John

Although there may be some times when I can use the hat or box for ditching, for the most part I want to be able to show the hat, and or a box on the table to be empty so that things can be magically produced from them.

I was thinking of some sort of "bag" that could hang off the edge of the table. Then when the hat is turned open side down, I could move the hat to the edge of the table and let the rabbit drop in - "lapping" into the bag.

For loads, I've read about an "s" shaped "double hook and loop" that can hook onto the table's edge, and hook onto the load.

Yet I was looking for some direction on all this, and other methods.

thanks
John

John, this may not be what you are looking for, but I do a dove production with it & then I do a dump later, of a glass bottle.

http://hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/product......tem=5374

good luck

S&M

I am considering BA, but since parts of my routine will involve a larger table area, I will need to work with the table that the site will provide.

Yet something like this, with a dup., and set far from the first table, could provide for a nice appearance/teleportation.

John

The Wizards' Journal #9 shows how to use a see-through plastic crate as a "Visible Invisible Well" that can be used on top of any table. You can use the crate as a production item first (the article shows how to produce everything from silks to doves from it), and then set it down on the table when you are finished with it and it continues to act as a well for other nefarious purposes.

How about a tip-over-trunk style box?

Regan

Is it possible for you to rig the bottom of the hat and the top of the table? If the bottom of the hat hinges in half and the top of the table contains a sliding panel, you could literally open the traps and make your loads and ditches. If you have a matching, ungimmicked hat that you can use during the rest of your show, all you would need is a subtle switch at the appropriate time. I know it's not an elegant solution, but it might work.

Kent

Spellbinder: sounds like the opposite of B.A. Yet it does sound interesting.

Regan: My show will be "small" in the props area, but I have considered gimmicking a cardboard box(that could sit on top of a table) in that way. Looking at Wilson's Complete course, I do see that it could allow repeated loadings. So I will need to give this more thought. I'm not sure I have much time to create this, but it could be fun trying.

Magicman: I just got my collapsible hat in the mail today. I think it would be very hard to gimmick w/o destroying it in the process of learning how to create the best flap mechanishm.

For those that don't yet own a collapsible hat, let me warn you that the mechanism, on mine at least, projects 2" into the opening of the hat when it is open, in 4 places! This will place some limitations on the size of my load.

Thanks for the ideas. I am trying to get several loadings and ditching methods, to make each phase look different, and keep ahead of the audience.

Thanks
John