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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
As I mentiond before, when it comes to computers and technical stuff, I have ALOT to learn.
With my sons advice, I am putting all my family photographs on my PC and am going to make a disc to pass on to generations. I'm making real good, albeit slow progress. But maybe someone could help me with some technical questions. # 1 I have a Palm Pilot. I would like to store several of those photos from the Pc onto that. How would I go about doing that? #2 Over the years, I have taped dozens of Vid tapes of my kids and family. They are on 8mm Vid tape. What I would like to know is this: If I were to go through those tapes, and find the best still frames, (ones that would make for good family photos) would it be possible to also store THEM on my PC along with the other photographs I mentioned? If I could do THAT, I could potentially add HUNDREDS of photos to my collection. And one more last one to rattle your brain: After I have stored my photos on my PC, is there a way to convert them into a sort of slide show that would function as a screen saver? Any of you with technical minds who know about this kind of stuff and can explain it in plain terms would be greatly appreciated! And one more: Does anybody recomend a user friendly web site where a person like me can go to get answers to such technical questions about these kind of things? That way, I wouldn't have to keep bothering you guys. Hey, I'm an old man. What can I say? Technical stuff throws me for a loop.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2006-10-29 12:24, daffydoug wrote: Great Idea but be aware that whatever format you put them in will no doubt be completely unviewable in less than a generation. Think Super8 Beta max and 8 Track. All images you would like to preserve for the ages should be in a physical form i.e photos in a scrap book. While not as nifty as multi-media displays with video and music they will at least be viewable by all a hundred years from now while the multi-media displays will be trapped unviewable on big silver disks. Make a scrap book that includes a DVD of pictures
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
I disagree. Since your using a Windows platform, Microsoft will archive all of your personal photos in their file on you. If one of your future relatives runs for a political office they will be able to access it.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Their files on me???
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
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On 2006-10-29 12:24, daffydoug wrote: 2- yes you can, but the quality of the still photos wont be that good. the way to do so is to capture the videos onto the computer using a video card (there are some really cheap ones, not the best quality, but they will do the job) all you have to do is just plug ur AV OUT of the cam to the AV IN of the Video card (that you will have to setup and install on your computer). then you can fiddle around with the software that comes with it as a free bundle and capture. as for the screensaver thing, download the latest ACDSEE, it does that (trial though) or go to http://www.download.com and search for screen saver, you will find dozens that allow you to try before you buy! hope this helps!
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Home computer equipment does not 'capture' old tapes at a very high quality. DVD Recorders seem to do this better.
Once you have a DVD of the tape, copy it to the computer and you can capture still shots using Windows Movie Maker which comes free with XP. For a slide show on your desktop with XP you can simply put your pics in a folder and select that folder as your slideshow. For archiving images I want to have in the future, I burn 1 copy to disk and keep another on a 100 gig Maxtor storage drive which connects to any PC via USB. |
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All this could, of course, be futile.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2006-10-29 13:52, Payne wrote: According to the scary Wal*Mart announcer lady, images stored on CD-Rom last six to eight years! Woah! (Of course, they were suggesting you have your pictures stored on official Wal*Mart CDs, but still!)
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Hmmmmmmm. So did she say how long the official, wonderful, superb, and always marvelous Wall Mart Cds hold images as compared to the other cursed, inferior, crappy, second rate, poopy, anethema, blasphemous waste your money brands?
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
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On 2006-10-29 21:45, mandrake01 wrote: I can confirm that, using TDK, some cds give me a hard time to read...considering investing in a Lacie backup kinda thing...but will have to sell a kidney or something! :S
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
What's a Lacie backup? How much does it cost, and what specifically does it do?
Also was wondering how old those TDK's are.
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
That six-eight figure includes the fact that you can perform error detection and error correction to try and fix bad area's.
the actual figure is more like 4-5 years before bad errors start cropping up(six-eight is only how long you *might* be able to pull out error riddled data). Turning your entire CD collection upside down every 3-6 months will actually help alot(gravity actually affects each bit on a CD over time, turning your CD collection upside down every 3-6 months can actually help out by causing any "drifting" to reverse). |
Jim Poor Special user Fairfax, VA 676 Posts |
With proper back-up and the "correct" file format, digitally stored photographs will be viewable for far longer than your normal everyday prints will last. The DNG and Tiff formats will be readable for a long long time. JPG will likely be around for ever and ever amen, but there is a risk of degrading the image quality by opening, and saving multiple times.
Check out the forums on http://www.naturescapes.net for more than you ever wanted to know about storing your images in digital form. |
Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2006-10-30 18:20, Jim Poor wrote: It's not the file format but the medium in which their stored. CD's and DVD's will not be around forever. A hundred years from now you'll be hard pressed to find anything that will be able to read them. So when your great grandchildren come across that shoe box in the attic filled with the hundreds of CD's that you so lovingly stored your photographs on all they'll be to them are prismatic disks. We occasionally have people show up in our department with 5 14 inch disks that they need the data off of. We just laugh, the same laugh we used when the engineers wanted us to retrieve critical data off of some old Bernoulli Cartridges they had forgotten to transfer the data off of when they still had the readers. Hard Copy is still your best bet for archival storage of text and photos. It's not a sexy nor convenient as digital but at least you will be able to read the books and look at the photos several centuries from now if you employ the correct archival disciplines
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Archival disciplines?
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
The data on CD's and DVD's will be corrupt and un-readable far before we stop having readers that support them.
Even after the support for the disk is gone, you can bet there is some specialized service available to convert it... if the data is corrupt however, you are out of luck.... |
pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
Some of the CDs/DVDs are just 4 years old!
as for the Lacie Backup, check this out http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10811 If you need lots of data storage (which I am assuming you don't) you might wanna consider investing in a 4 Terrabytes thing (Lacie is cheaper than macintosh' Xserve)
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