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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
Hello,
I recall recently seeing a trick involving what I think were 3 ungaffed cards (for instance a 6S, an 8H and a KC). I seem to recall that duplicates of these thre cards were also used. The effect as I recall was the magician took the 1st card (i.e., the 6S) and touching it to the 3 cards in the three-card packet (i.e., a 6S, 8H and KC) "changed" all of the cards in that packet to a 6S. Next, he picked up the 2nd card (i.e., 8H) and by touching this card to the three-card packet, the three "six of spades cards" now each changed to the 8H. And then, taking the last card (KC and touching it to the three-card packet, each of the cards in that packet now changed from the 8H into the KC. And finally, to end cleanly, he takes the three known cards and touched one of them to one of the cards in the three-card packet, a 2nd card to a 2nd card in the three-card packet and the 3rd card to the3rd card in the three-card packet--ane the effect concludes with a pair of the 1st card (6S) a pair of the 2nd card (8H) and a pair of the last card (KC). Do you have any idea as to the name of this particular effect or the names of any magicians that perform it (or a similar version) on a DVD and, finally, do you have any information as to the name of the original effect that this effect might have been based upon? Is this a take-off on the Jon Racherbaumer "The Universal Card" effect? Or is this a take-off on a Bro. John Hammon effect? Thanks for any info in this regard. Mike
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Mitch Schneiter Special user West Linn, Oregon 672 Posts |
That sounds very much like Daryl's Cardboard Chameleons. A lot of magic happens with ungaffed cards.
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
I may be wrong, but could this be HAmman's The Magic Cards?
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
Although I don't know the name, it seems using similar handling with 'Color Monte'. I suppose the latter effect of revealing 3 different cards might hint the secret. Maybe using 3 duplicates would hint the secret from the begining. It's only my supposition. I appreciate to hear from who has experience with this trick.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
Thanks for all the help on this. The reason I ask is this: I'm trying to find the origins of this excellent effect.
I saw a version on the John Mendoza "My Best" volume 3 DVD wherein John entitles the effect "The Universal Card" and he credits the original handling to Bro. John Hamman. Yet, when I was on eBay, I found a manuscript by Jon Racherbaumer also entitled "The Universal Card" and Jon Racherbaumer not only mentions the Hamman effect, he also mentions that the effect is attributed to Karl Fulves (see ad description below). So, I'm trying to determine who was "first" in this regard. (It seems like it might be Fulves..followed by a Hamman adaption...followed by a Racherbaumer compilation. Does such a "bibiliography" square with your recollection?) Notes from the eBay ad copy: The Universal Card by Jon Racherbaumer Vintage Booklet: printed in large format ---about the size of a magazine. 35 pages. Copyright: Jon William Racherbaumer, 1972. Publisher; Louis Tannen. *** This is a complete exposition on the universal card. There are more than fourteen variations on the universal theme. Contents; ***, The Chameleon Card,***, Hamman's Universal Variants Notes on The Universal Card: The specific conditions and procedure for this effect were set forth by Karl Fulves in the Winter Folio of the Pallbearers Review (1967) in an effect called, "By Any Other Name".*** From the above ad is seems that Mitch Schneiter might also be correct about the "Chameleon Cards" effect and that Brad might be correct about the Hamman name. Thanks for any clarifying info. Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.
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thoughtsexplorer Elite user Elite... not D-Lite! 424 Posts |
Does't seem to be Daryl's "cardboard chameleons", because there, the (3 different) backs also change.
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S.Segal Special user San Diego 949 Posts |
JC Wagner recently published a variation to this "Universal Card" plot titled "Aspen Universal." In effect, you show an odd-backed Joker and table it to the side. After 3 cards are touched, they are removed from the pack and placed on the table. One at a time, the single Joker is touched to each selection and it changes to a duplicate of that selection. At the very end, after the Joker has changed in to the 3rd selection, the Joker is tabled. The tabled Joker is then turned over to reveal a blank, odd-backed card. Everything is examinable.
This is JC's solution to the plot that he developed in the 1970's while working the Jolly Jester with Bob Sheets. I believe you can get more information on the effect by visiting his website: http://www.jcwagnersmagic.com S.Segal |
Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
Sounds to me like an effect put out by Phil Goldstein / Max Maven. And as I recall it is in his published book "Focus", I do not recall the name of the effect though..It is not Cardboard Chameleons..
Rennie
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Richard Paddon Loyal user 214 Posts |
The routine, as stated by Brad, is very similar to Bro. Hamman's THE MAGIC CARDS. One difference is that Hamman does not show the faces of the magic cards at the routine's conclusion. The routine in question exposes all faces.
Rennie, are you thinking of Impressions or Masque from FOCUS? Both are quite different to the routine in question. For those interested in The Universal Card plot, Jon Racherbaumer's The Universal Card is a must have. An updated ebook, with about 24 variations, is available from Jon's website, jonracherbaumer.com Jon credits the term, universal card, to Karl Fulves when referring to this plot. For a yearly subscription, you receive various ebooks, tricks, sleights. Ebooks include the complete Hierophant, Legendary Kabbala, Arch Triumphs and over 20 other ebooks & e-manuscripts. Cheers, Richard |
John Pezzullo Veteran user Sydney AUSTRALIA 354 Posts |
Johnny Thompson's version of the 'Universal Card' is available in print ("Polished Polish Prestidigitation") and on video ("The Greater Magic Video Library - Volume 21").
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
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On 2007-01-03 18:53, Richard Paddon wrote: Richard, I believe you are correct, Masque sounds like the one I am thinking of..You are definitely the Guru of packets.. Rennie
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Richard Paddon Loyal user 214 Posts |
Thanks Rennie.
Though, I wouldn't say Guru. Maybe instead, in need of a life Cheers, Richard |
Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
I have to side with Rennie on this one, Richard. Guru suits you well.
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The Funny Titan New user 52 Posts |
I'm pretty sure it's Universal Card but not 100% sure about the name
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