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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
If you use my method with Corner Shorts, you don't need to turn away when two selections are made. The final patter would be "But anyway I have been looking at the cards until this moment. To shut out any visible information completely, I will find the selected cards behind my back".
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Billgussen Elite user Central Japan 497 Posts |
The infinity card control by Martin Nash allows for what Mr. Kato is suggesting without corner shorts or any other pre-made gaff. You may want to look into that as a way for finding a card behind your back (and thus elliminating the "marked cards" from their minds as a method).
Or even better, use infinity or a short card made from a marked deck. With the gaffed marked deck, do the behind-the-back reveal, then go on to use the effects you can do with a marked deck afterwards. Bill |
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
I don't know Martin Nash's 'Infinity Control'. With it, can I find the selection behind my back with finger touch? Can it be set alternately in a deck for 'T.N.T'?
I appreciate clarification. Hideo Kato |
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dafin77 Regular user 140 Posts |
Bill,
I guess I'm not following. How would infinity allow you to do TNT? Are you talking about the same trick?
David Finkelstein
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Shufton Veteran user California 306 Posts |
There are ways to emphasize that things are fair. You can make a big deal about turning your head. You can add false shuffles with your head still turned away.
Spectators will latch on to the FIRST explanation that satisfies them, whether it makes sense or not, or whether it could even be done that way or not. It is possible, with any effect, to prove that the explanations they would reach for could NOT be the solution (even though they are!). That is actually all a magic presentation is: offering a series of proofs that what can't be is, and what is, can't be. For example, am I dirty with a stack? I'll casually do some shuffling while I patter to dispel that notion. Are they marked? I'll turn my head away while commenting that I don't want to see the selection (or whatever). I'll try to look at the deck and handle the deck as little as possible at certain times. Try to do moves always on the off beat when possible. Since you know what they are looking for, it becomes another tool you use to prove that what it must be, it simply isn't. Best of luck to you. This is something that will be fun to develop and practice! -Steve
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Billgussen Elite user Central Japan 497 Posts |
I'm sorry, I don't know the term, "TNT." If you PM me or post how the effect looks to the spectators, then I can tell you if Infinity does it.
However, it can certainly do a behind the back reveal without seeing the cards. It's called Backfire -- if I remember correctly -- and apperently it is Mr. Nash's signature effect at the Magic Castle. (In the video, he asks the buyer not to do it at the Magic Castle.) He teaches it on the Infinity and Beyond tape. One can very fairly fan through the cards in front of the spec, letting the spec know that the card is in the middle of the deck. Close up the fan. Dribble the cards so that the spec knows there is no break (no sleights in the dribble -- everything's fair). Put the deck behind the back, and within two seconds (he does it immediately) you come back with the selected card in one hand and the rest of the deck in the other. This can be done with a borrowed deck. I learned it through his video Infinity and Beyond, but I hear it can also be found on Award-Winning Card Magic of Martin Nash Vol. 4. (I don't have the latter video, so I don't know if it teaches Backfire specifically on it.) I hope that helps, Bill |
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
Then, Infinity Control can't be used in T.N.T.
Hideo Kato |
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Billgussen Elite user Central Japan 497 Posts |
Mr. Kato & Mr. Pyrite, I sent you both PMs.
Sorry to the OP if I took this topic a little off track. Bill |
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F-Hmagic New user 56 Posts |
It sounds to me like a combination of numbers 3 and 4 is the best option. If the technique is good, and the presentation provides and "explaination" then the questions will be answered.
Perhaps approaching this (or any effect) knowing that it will be presented to problem solvers is advantagous! You might have to put more effort into making an effective presentation, and you know that your technique has to be great. I am a bit of a problem solver myself, and find that I put more work into effects that I think are obvious. Sometimes too much work, but it is good practice, still.
What?! How'd that get there?!
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Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
I have seen people introudce an effect where they simply say something along the lines of "What I'm about to do, may well leasd you to suspect me of using dodgy cards perhaps marked in someway, now in Casinos to prevent marked cards being introduced into a game, a riffle test will be carried out on the cards, this is where you riffle the cards like so (demonstrate) and you would notice changes on the backs of the cards as if in a flickbook animation. As you can see this is obviously not the case with these.....lead into effect" Although I don't believ such an explanation is neccesary, the flickbook demonstration may be interesting to laypeople. You may also decide your uncomfotable revealing such methods.
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